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Bill: Y.H.R. 0004
Details
Submitted by[?]: Yellow Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2461
Description[?]:
| Whereas the current national anthem is good but, Also Whereas the second verse is not completely lyrically parallel to the first verse, Also Whereas the Yellow Party is currently scoring the national anthem for STB with Organ, We Resolve that the second verse be changed to the following text and that a third verse that reinstates our loyalty to Ikradon be inserted- |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The lyrics of the national anthem.
Old value:: O Ikradon! Our home and native land. Thy people and thy liberty, we always will defend. Our ancestors have spilled their blood for you to prevail. O Ikradon, o Ikradon! To thy banner we shall hail. Most beautiful with spacious skies and amber waves of grain, Majestic moutains, high above your rich and golden plains. No enemy shall conquer thee and cause to thee a harm, Our honor and our loyalty shall protect your charm
Current:
| O Gij hierboven, die met uw eigen hand, Leidt naties over de hele wereld, Bewaak dit, ons Ikradonische land, Van vreemd juk en wee! Als kinderen hebben jullie ons geschonken, Een geest, vrij, ongebogen, š¯„† Laat schijnen voor de zon van altijd meer vrijheid, Die we al zo lang hebben gezien! š¯„‡ |
Proposed:
| O Ikradon! Our home and native land. Thy people and thy liberty, we always will defend. Our ancestors have spilled their blood for you to prevail. O Ikradon, o Ikradon! To thy banner we shall hail. O Ikradon! Your beauty we do know. Your mountains high and rivers deep we cherish and preserve. No enemy shall conquer thee and cause to thee a harm, O Ikradon, o Ikradon, may our will protect your charm. O Ikradon! We affirm our loyalty. We never shall betray your name, nor desecrate your land. Our posterity will learn and know only you are home! O Ikradon, o Ikradon, to thy banner we shall hail. |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:45:28, September 19, 2007 CET | From |  Yellow Party | To | Debating the Y.H.R. 0004 |
| Message | We would ask you to make this change so that the anthem will not require a whole new tune to account for the second verse. This would make it easier for the common Ikradonian to sing. |
| Date | 16:12:45, September 19, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Faith Party | To | Debating the Y.H.R. 0004 |
| Message | At least fix the type in the second line of the second verse. ;-) |
| Date | 18:19:18, September 19, 2007 CET | From | Yellow Party | To | Debating the Y.H.R. 0004 |
| Message | Well we would be fine and would certainly accept any grammatical changes or whatnot the words just have to fit the rhythm! We are open to suggestions. |
| Date | 20:24:43, September 19, 2007 CET | From | Yellow Party | To | Debating the Y.H.R. 0004 |
| Message | Fixed incorrect cap. In V2 L2. |
| Date | 18:31:43, September 24, 2007 CET | From | Yellow Party | To | Debating the Y.H.R. 0004 |
| Message | With the 2nd Administration of the Yellow Party taking over, we have added what we feel to be an important verse and made the necessary word-rhythm adjustments. We will now bring this to vote. |
| Date | 20:37:25, September 24, 2007 CET | From | Bicky Forever - MSCC | To | Debating the Y.H.R. 0004 |
| Message | Can you replace "liberty" by "solidarity"? |
| Date | 22:52:30, September 24, 2007 CET | From | Yellow Party | To | Debating the Y.H.R. 0004 |
| Message | Well I could have in the debate phase. I can't go back and edit it now. I'm not thinking that word would fit the rhythm anyway. I did not alter the first verse in any way, its what i built the tune around. If you have a problem with the wording there why didn't you fix it earlier? |
| Date | 00:59:30, September 25, 2007 CET | From | Yellow Party | To | Debating the Y.H.R. 0004 |
| Message | After careful evaluation, we have decided not to consider the change proposed by Bicky Forever to change "liberty" to "solidarity" in the first verse because we believe that Ikradon should become more involved in international political affairs and this word sends a message of isolation. This bill is now being re-sent to the floor for vote. |
| Date | 18:46:11, September 25, 2007 CET | From | Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi | To | Debating the Y.H.R. 0004 |
| Message | Opposed... We feel the third verse is rather overly nationalistic for our tastes. Sorry for not chiming in before, but I hadn't noticed the third verse until now. |
| Date | 21:15:24, September 25, 2007 CET | From | Bicky Forever - MSCC | To | Debating the Y.H.R. 0004 |
| Message | To YP: Solidarity as a message of isolation??? If the Ikradonian people are called solidary, they seem much less isolated then when you call them libertine. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 188 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 57 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 54 |
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