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Bill: The Pnték Threat
Details
Submitted by[?]: HaLeumit Tikvah
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2459
Description[?]:
| http://www.takeforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=164430&sid=21275cc292c35ed02707b73270f78de4&mforum=particracy#164430 Brothers, The Pnték once again seek our land! For our faith, for Beiteynuese democracy, we cannot afford to be bullied by our enemies in Pontesi. We must respond in turn, and mobilise forces to defend our Eastern border. Recognising Pontesi unrightfully claims on Beiteynuese Mehozot of Tadraki and Endlid Recognising the agressive stance being taken by Pontesi. Let it be enacted that: 1. A further 85,000 Beiteynuese troops shall be mobilised and depolyed in the Tadraki Mehoz, with the Naczelnik Nasi given the power to mobilise extra forces as he sees fit, after consultation with the Minister of Defence. 2. Any incursion of Beiteynuese territory, no matter how big or small, by the Pontesian Army, or attempt by the Pontesian Government to subvert or destabilise Beiteynu's rightful sovereignty over its five Mehozot, shall be treated as a declaration of war. 3. In order to establish a lasting peace between Beiteynu and Pontesi, the parties here will agree to send a delgate to discuss the possibility of building a Peace Wall along our shared border. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:32:07, September 21, 2007 CET | From |  Ma'avak | To | Debating the The Pnték Threat |
| Message | OOC: Woops, I'll delete the other one. |
| Date | 13:33:22, September 21, 2007 CET | From | Ma'avak | To | Debating the The Pnték Threat |
| Message | "We see it like this. No Beiteynu troops have entered Pontesian soil and they have a history of trying to destroy Beiteynu so this is clearly just a ploy by those hawk buggerers in the east to justify another invasion. We wish to see the following put into place; Increased troop deployment to Tadraki and a resolution that if any Pontesian soldier, tank, plane or anything else enters just an inch of Beiteynuese land or airspace it shall be treated as a declaration of war and we shall respond with due force. We would also like to begin discussions on the building of a security fence between Tadraki and Pontesi." |
| Date | 16:00:34, September 21, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the The Pnték Threat |
| Message | "We have added Aymams suggestions to this bill. What are the other parties view on this matter?" -Av Beit Din David Frankin |
| Date | 16:09:03, September 21, 2007 CET | From | Ma'avak | To | Debating the The Pnték Threat |
| Message | "We thank the Av Beit Din for his swift and effective work on this proposal. However we suspect that in regards to the Peace Wall Pontesi will not agree to such a move and it may have to be undertaken unilaterally." -- Naczelnik Nasi Delshad Kandelcukier |
| Date | 18:41:19, September 21, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the The Pnték Threat |
| Message | "We fear that you are correct in your assesment of Pontesi reaction to a Peace Wall. However, given the weak case Pontesi currently have for war, any attempt at unilateral action will likely be added, in some backward Pnték logic, to this. We feel that attempting to gain Pontesi approval first is the best course, with unilateral action to be taken if (or, more likely, when) they reject this plan." -Av Beit Din David Frankin |
| Date | 21:00:38, September 21, 2007 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the The Pnték Threat |
| Message | I call for a major protection of the border! --Gen. Luke Godsman, Minister of Defence |
| Date | 14:33:42, September 22, 2007 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the The Pnték Threat |
| Message | DO NOT TOUCH OUR BORDER! THIS IS THE HOLY LAND NOT YOURS! This is message i sent to the pontesi! |
| Date | 15:06:42, September 22, 2007 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the The Pnték Threat |
| Message | "We demand an explaination from the PPP as to why they would have us remain defenceless against a Pontesi invasion." -Av Beit Din David Frankin |
| Date | 15:10:21, September 22, 2007 CET | From |  Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the The Pnték Threat |
| Message | We're willing to state our official apology to the Beiteynu Government along with a declaration to accept Beiteynu sovereignity over Tadraki and Endlid and canceled all military exercise near the border if the Beiteynu Government will state that they have no attempt to seized Pontesi Land and the Christian Zionist Party declare there official apology to Pontesi. -- Atabeg Acciptrum Clémence Poésy |
| Date | 15:10:46, September 22, 2007 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the The Pnték Threat |
| Message | the PPP is not a pro-Beiteynu party! I see them as anti-jewish! they have voted no an everything! they are anti-Beiteynu and that is why they want us defenseless! |
| Date | 19:46:49, September 24, 2007 CET | From | Ma'avak | To | Debating the The Pnték Threat |
| Message | "Let us not forget the PPP seek to replace our nation with a foreign Pharaoh, from this it can easily be seen where their loyalties lie." -- Naczelnik Nasi Delshad Kandelcukier |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 144 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 11 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 85 |
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