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Bill: Education Reforms
Details
Submitted by[?]: Labour Party of Solentia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2459
Description[?]:
| We propose the age at which compulsory education in schools finishes is lowered to 16, to provide those who are not as intellectually capable to pursue other options and avenues as The Labour Party is aware- education isn't for everyone. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21).
Old value:: 18
Current: 16
Proposed: 16
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:09:35, September 21, 2007 CET | From |  Labour Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Education Reforms |
| Message | We the Labour Party value our education system very much so. But we as any other ordinary citizens realise and have done so for some time that education isn’t for everyone. Some people are not destined to do a white collar office style job. Some people are destined to do other things such as manual labour or performing arts or go to other educational establishments such as colleges or work as an apprentice learning the “tricks of the trade” in a particular job. We feel it simply isn’t fair to make everyone stay right through to 18 in education, when they can leave qualified at 16 and make a decent go of things. Why anyone should be forced to stay in something they do not believe in is beyond us. Yes, education is important and yes we value it. But beyond 16, seems a little bit excessive as for as we are concerned. Afterall, we are a party of freedom, of choice and of personal responsibility for the people of our country. Not everyone benefits from education- and that is what we must realise. Pauline Richardson, Labour Party Shadow Minister for Education and Culture and Minister for Fuwan. |
| Date | 23:50:58, September 21, 2007 CET | From | New Centre and Unionists | To | Debating the Education Reforms |
| Message | If the Labour Party could provide us with evidence that both those students staying on and those leaving full time compulsory education are well treated and looked after; through subsidies to colleges etc... then we would back this legislation. Marc Legumes- MCM senator from Shinatawa, MCM shadow Education Minister. |
| Date | 00:50:19, September 22, 2007 CET | From | Workers Party | To | Debating the Education Reforms |
| Message | We oppose. The more people stay in formal education the best. Better because they will enjoy greater knowledge and develop increased skills, and better because they will start competing later in the labour market, thus not pressing the wages down. Sen. Anna Basuto - Workers Party |
| Date | 10:52:30, September 22, 2007 CET | From | Labour Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Education Reforms |
| Message | In response to the MCM, the money in the budget already carries some substantial money for colleges and other alternative education facilities. That money currently isn't being used as well as it could do and I am confident that it will be used correctly if this bill passes on alternative education facilties. Pauline Richardson, Labour Party Shadow Minister for Education and Culture and Minister for Fuwan. |
| Date | 10:56:11, September 22, 2007 CET | From | New Centre and Unionists | To | Debating the Education Reforms |
| Message | I am sorry to the Labour party; though we realise that your attempted "protection" of the less-education or less-academic students is good, we do not feel that this system would be well implimented and would cause further disruptions in the Education departments. We do not agree that 16 year olds are of an age where education is no longer important, 18 is a much more suitable age where our new adults can make a sensible chocie of whether to study at a University or College or go straight into the Workplace. Marc Legumes- MCM Senator from Shinatawa, MCM shadow Education Minister. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 132 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 293 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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