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Bill: Gun restrictions
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Authoritarian Movement
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2477
Description[?]:
| "We don't want everybody bearing arms in order to decrease crime" |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Current: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Proposed: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:51:50, October 27, 2007 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Gun restrictions |
| Message | "Guns prevent crime, this is just another effort from NAM to strip the rights of Zardugalies away." OOC: Guns prevent crime, Switzerland has one of the lowest in the world, men and women walk around with military grade assault rilfes, coming home from mandatory target practise. In the States, Washington DC, no guns allowed, has the highest crime rate. |
| Date | 09:29:03, October 27, 2007 CET | From | National Authoritarian Movement | To | Debating the Gun restrictions |
| Message | "Strict licence conditions mean, that we check their personality, register each weapon someone owns and may refuse the aproval to buy another (high caliber) weapon. We do not ban weapons in general." OOC: Switzerland is the worst example since every healthy man between 20 and 34 is a standby soldier (higher ranks until the age of 50). They have all their uniforms and light weapons at home to be ready for action in case of war. In most other European countries, weapons are under strict licence conditions. |
| Date | 10:06:25, October 27, 2007 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Gun restrictions |
| Message | "We believe any law abiding Zardugali of sound mind has the right to defend themselves. This system is just inviting corruption and a black market, which means more crime." OOC: Switzerland is a fantastic example of how armed populations deter crime, and how the notion of gun ownership means your a criminal is flawed. I noticed you are very quick to dismiss Switzerland, most guns, least crime, but haven't bothered to come to the defense of Washington DC and other US States which have banned/ imposed ridiculous licensing systems on their population, which now must endure very high crime rates. You see, when you make it harder to legally acquire a gun, more and more opportunities become available to illegally acquire one. Once they've broken one law, it's easy to do it again. Even easier with a gun. Even easier then the guy your robbing is in the middle of cutting through the red tape your going to establish in order to get a gun. Another example of guns stopping crime is Texas. Texas has the highest number of gun owners for their population in America, and they also have the lowest crime rate. Hmmm. |
| Date | 12:25:55, October 27, 2007 CET | From | National Authoritarian Movement | To | Debating the Gun restrictions |
| Message | OOC: The USA is not a good example either. If you have bought a gun legally in one state, you can travel easily to another and use your arms there, if you want to. There's no check on the state-borders. It's simply not true that a liberal aproach towards weapon-ownery will lead to less crime. You can see that everywhere in Africa, Middle East and South-East Europe. The scandinavic states have the lowest crime rates all over the world with strict weapon licences too. |
| Date | 07:59:34, October 28, 2007 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Gun restrictions |
| Message | "The USA is a great example of when the right to bear arms is taken away from a population that's used to being armed, crime rates skyrocket." |
| Date | 11:47:29, October 28, 2007 CET | From | National Authoritarian Movement | To | Debating the Gun restrictions |
| Message | "Well, we maybe must pass these interim-period, but after that, crimerates will reach a lower level than before this law. There's simply no need to bear arms because Zardugal has a good working police and a strong army. For all these people who still feel insecure, there are strict licence conditions under which they can afford their gun." |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 175 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 163 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 63 |
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