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Bill: Science and Technology Reform Bill

Details

Submitted by[?]: SocLib '82

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 2489

Description[?]:

As per the report released by the Ministry of Science and Technology, found here: http://www.takeforum.com/particracy/viewtopic.php?p=168388&mforum=particracy#168388

We are proposing to foster innovation and brilliance in one of the most important areas of our nation's economy and academic institutions.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:25:06, November 16, 2007 CET
FromRoyalist Confederacy
ToDebating the Science and Technology Reform Bill
Message1, 4, 5 Ok. Article 2 does not change much... Article 3 never...

Date21:34:36, November 16, 2007 CET
FromHutorian Anarcho-Communist Party
ToDebating the Science and Technology Reform Bill
MessageAfter some discussion, agreed. We disagreed with price regulation until it was brought to our attention that, since we fully subsidize the price afterwards anyways, it would not make that much of a difference to the people. Space agency was iffy, but we'll concede.

Date09:30:24, November 17, 2007 CET
FromSocLib '82
ToDebating the Science and Technology Reform Bill
MessageWe are awaiting further consensus before any changes to the bill are made. Hopefully this will be done before the next elections..

Date09:35:57, November 17, 2007 CET
From"Le Chaim" - Aesthetic Party
ToDebating the Science and Technology Reform Bill
Message"No. I can just repeat what I and others have said before: Human being is absolute. It has to be absolute. And that means that human being as a whole is invulnerable, including his body and fleshliness, his emotional abilities and needs, his social wants, his very own creativity and individuality, his thinking, in short human being as a whole. If we reduce only one of the elements constituting human being as multiple unity, we mutilate the very man's possibilities, and insofar as a man is his possibilities, the man itself. A man is not an animal possessing language, a man is no talking and thinking thing, human being lies outside of all the categories that organize our world because human being is the location and scene of this categories. Man mustn't be reduced to a bare object of science and research! Human being is more. Science has no understanding for the magnificent singleness, no understanding for self-creating freedom and no understanding for artistical creativity and world-building. That is why we can never agree to Acrticle 3 [cloning technologies]. Do not destroy the amazing fact (not in a scientific sense) of human being by destroying it's invulnerability!! ..."

Ephrajm Chajm Dichter, party leader

(We wouldn't agree to any of the other proposals anyway...)

Date19:32:53, November 17, 2007 CET
FromSocLib '82
ToDebating the Science and Technology Reform Bill
Message"This bill would not permit a slippery-slope into the field of human cloning, it simply would allow research on human cloning. Essentially, stem cell research would be allowed to prevent disease and further the cause of humanity that you so eloquently revere. Science can easily explain human biology, and science ought to be used to improve and further understand the biology of human beings. To simply declare human beings sacred and act as if we are nothing but philosophical motes of an ethereal world is not totally off-course, but it is certainly misguided. To prosper, humanity must employ all the tools at its disposal, and science is one of those tools. We urge the Aesthetic Party to vote in favor."

Edu Bati
Minister of Science and Technology

Date10:31:08, November 18, 2007 CET
From"Le Chaim" - Aesthetic Party
ToDebating the Science and Technology Reform Bill
Message"I am sorry! Human being is one of the things that have to be invulnerable. If it is not the state or the regime lacks humanity. We agree that science is improving the human situation and we are just as glad about that as you are. We would never retard scientific research just for the sake of retarding. But cloning touches human being in it's deepest definition and essence. Cloning makes the very nucleus of human being an object of scientific research, and that is a proposal we can never support..."

Ephrajm Chajm Dichter, party leader

Date17:12:25, November 20, 2007 CET
FromRoyalist Confederacy
ToDebating the Science and Technology Reform Bill
MessageWell we would vote yes but we cant agree on legal cloning.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 98

no
   

Total Seats: 182

abstain
   

Total Seats: 21


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