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Bill: The End of the Welfare State
Details
Submitted by[?]: Parti Libertaire
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2501
Description[?]:
| This has been an ongoing problem in our nation: citizens relying on the government's aid and not seeking to improve their standards of living by supporting themselves. We still recognize the necessity to support those who are still unable to support themselves, however it should not be to a degree where it will attract those who CAN support themselves as well. By lowering welfare handouts we can lower taxes as well and allow those who have earned their luxory to better reap their rewards. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state offers a voluntary public pension, combined with other voluntary private pensions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:50:00, December 13, 2007 CET | From |  Union Pour Un Movement Populaire | To | Debating the The End of the Welfare State |
| Message | Non. |
| Date | 23:51:46, December 13, 2007 CET | From | Parti Libertaire | To | Debating the The End of the Welfare State |
| Message | Alas, this had to come at some point. With the fascists in a major lead we hope we can finally get this to pass. |
| Date | 00:06:37, December 14, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour Un Movement Populaire | To | Debating the The End of the Welfare State |
| Message | . . . you conniving little bastard .. .. .. YOU MAKE MAMA SO PROUD! |
| Date | 00:27:42, December 14, 2007 CET | From | Nouveau Jacobins | To | Debating the The End of the Welfare State |
| Message | so instead of a "welfare" state, we'll be more of a, well, corporate state I guess.... I'd rather not go towards that end. |
| Date | 01:15:28, December 14, 2007 CET | From | Parti Libertaire | To | Debating the The End of the Welfare State |
| Message | Oh we sit and plot. We knew this day would come. HAHAHAHAAA |
| Date | 01:24:32, December 14, 2007 CET | From | 2ème PPPP | To | Debating the The End of the Welfare State |
| Message | If this passes we have half a mind to become the Socialist Sovalt Secession Sect. For the sake of all Kanjor, we must preserve the government traditions that bring our nation so much equality, justice, peace and progress. |
| Date | 05:57:21, December 14, 2007 CET | From | Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD) | To | Debating the The End of the Welfare State |
| Message | Who said that we would support these kind of propositions? Besides, this Bill would certainly not create a corporate state and in fact would be the antithesis of a corporate state. |
| Date | 05:59:22, December 14, 2007 CET | From | Union Hosienne-Démocrate (UHD) | To | Debating the The End of the Welfare State |
| Message | PU; sitting and plotting is fine, however, be very aware of being betrayed at any time as the DPUF has; learn from our mistakes, as we certainly have. |
| Date | 13:19:32, December 14, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour une Nation Homosexuelle | To | Debating the The End of the Welfare State |
| Message | We will stand byt the PU on this |
| Date | 01:11:27, December 15, 2007 CET | From | 2ème PPPP | To | Debating the The End of the Welfare State |
| Message | You has gone crazy, homos, mes amis. |
| Date | 06:36:46, December 15, 2007 CET | From | Union Pour Un Movement Populaire | To | Debating the The End of the Welfare State |
| Message | Aw, DPUF gives life lessons now, twenty cents for two quick anecdotes and a three hour crying session. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 83 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 167 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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