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Bill: Militär Reform Gesetz '08
Details
Submitted by[?]: Konservative Monarchistische Partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2509
Description[?]:
| For a stronger Dundorf |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Discrimination in the military on grounds of race/religion.
Old value:: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Current: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Proposed: The government does not interfere with the military over who can serve in it.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women serve alongside men.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women can only serve in non-battle positions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:11:59, December 30, 2007 CET | From | Demokratische Republikaner Partei | To | Debating the Militär Reform Gesetz '08 |
| Message | Nein. This will weaken the military should its command be filled with the so-called "Moral Majority" and Chauvinistic Schweinhunds. Any able-bodied man or woman should be able to serve. |
| Date | 21:53:19, December 30, 2007 CET | From | Konservative Monarchistische Partei | To | Debating the Militär Reform Gesetz '08 |
| Message | These proposals are nothing but moderate. Women have no place in the military at all, but they are physically and mentally incapable of combat. Homosexuals can serve as long as they dont bother everyone about their perversion. What's so wrong about asking soldiers to leve their sex-lives at the door? And who knows better than military commanders who should serve in the military? |
| Date | 01:20:38, December 31, 2007 CET | From | Demokratische Republikaner Partei | To | Debating the Militär Reform Gesetz '08 |
| Message | Women are physically and mentally incapable, eh? Guess the Amazons were a bunch of girlie-girls... |
| Date | 01:32:47, December 31, 2007 CET | From | Konservative Monarchistische Partei | To | Debating the Militär Reform Gesetz '08 |
| Message | Mythology is irrelevent to the discussion at hand. |
| Date | 04:51:37, December 31, 2007 CET | From | Demokratische Republikaner Partei | To | Debating the Militär Reform Gesetz '08 |
| Message | Mythology has many of its bases in fact. And I only turned to that due to your rejection of fact. |
| Date | 07:59:46, December 31, 2007 CET | From | Konservative Monarchistische Partei | To | Debating the Militär Reform Gesetz '08 |
| Message | You have never provided facts proving that women are capable of combat. In Israel women are not allowed to serve in the Artillery, Armour or Infantry because they are not physically or mentally capable of it. In America women are held to significantly lower recruitment standards than men. As an example, a 17 year old woman is expected to run as fast as a 40 year old man, when passing the US army's 2-mile run training. They also have help-bars attached to the walls they have to scale, are rquired to carry less, and are not required to dig (as they are physically incapable of it). |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 105 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 247 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 167 |
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