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Bill: Gated Communities (Government removal from) Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: People's Radical Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2547

Description[?]:

If there must be gated communities of any description (something which can be debated along with the merits of this Bill, we propose that they be purely private initiatives. Government involvement in the housing market has been altogether too high for too long:

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date15:44:10, March 14, 2008 CET
From Republican Coalition
ToDebating the Gated Communities (Government removal from) Act
MessageThere is no reason to reduce government involvement in housing, if anything it benifits Hulstria to do so.
Also, gated communities is not housing, it has to do with segregating sections of living areas from the general population. If people wish to live like this then they should be able to do so.
There are several Aneist gated communities in Thague, which prevented the spreading of riots around the city two years ago. This was only a benefit.

Date23:39:17, March 14, 2008 CET
From People's Radical Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities (Government removal from) Act
MessageAnd the Aneist community is still going to be able to set up gated communities in future - as will any other community. This bill simply removes any government imperative to do so.

Date09:41:07, March 15, 2008 CET
From Republican Coalition
ToDebating the Gated Communities (Government removal from) Act
MessageIf you havn't already noticed, the Aneists are part of the government.

Date10:45:21, March 15, 2008 CET
From People's Radical Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities (Government removal from) Act
MessageYour point being? When I say "the Aneist community" I mean it in the same way as I do when I say "the immigrant community" or "the Jewish community" or anything else. A group of like-minded Aneists are still welcome to set up a gated community under their own steam. Nobody's going to challenge that with this legislation.
What would change, should this bill pass, is that the setting-up would have to be done under their own steam, rather than by government diktat. The government won't stop them doing so, neither will it do the setting-up for them.

OOC: If these "Aneist gated communities" aren't just places where private citizens who happen to subscribe to Aneism live in security-patrolled compound sorts of things, please let me know. That was the definition I was working under here.

Date00:52:26, March 16, 2008 CET
From Republican Coalition
ToDebating the Gated Communities (Government removal from) Act
MessageThe Aneists claim the right to set up gated communities for their followers, those who are Hulstrian and those who are Dranian, as they see fit, using party resources. They see no reason why they should be forbidden to do so. Gated communities cause no harm so should be left to do as they will.

Date01:30:45, March 16, 2008 CET
From People's Radical Party
ToDebating the Gated Communities (Government removal from) Act
MessageAgain, the Aneists themselves as a group or a political party are most welcome to set up gated communities using their own resources. Where in this bill does that right get circumscribed?
The *only* thing being circumscribed is the possibility that the *government* as distinct from the *party* or the *movement* is not going to kick funds into the setup of the community. If the Aneists are incapable of differentiating between party and government resources, I seriously question their probity.

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