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Bill: {ISEP} Alcoholic Beverages Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Independent Selucian Empire Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2558
Description[?]:
| The ISEP recognise that alcohol causes many problems in Selucian society. We propose that premises that sell alcohol are licensed to tighten up control of these sales. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards alcoholic beverages.
Old value:: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased and consumed anywhere, but only by adults.
Current: Alcoholic beverages are regulated by local governments.
Proposed: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, and can only be available to adults.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:56:37, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Pro Patria | To | Debating the {ISEP} Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | No. This would drive small, private wineyards into the corner. These people have been farming for generations! They must be allowed to sell their products in their own outlets. |
| Date | 21:30:58, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Independent Selucian Empire Party | To | Debating the {ISEP} Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | They would still be allowed to, they would only have to satisfy the local licensing board that they are doing so responsibly. Not a lot to ask, unless the future of our children is less important to Pro Patria than easy access to expensive wine. |
| Date | 23:06:54, April 03, 2008 CET | From | Alliance of Imperial Selucians | To | Debating the {ISEP} Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | I agree with both Pro Patria and ISEP on this one. This is a tough one... |
| Date | 00:21:26, April 04, 2008 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the {ISEP} Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | I agree with Pro Patria |
| Date | 17:23:14, April 04, 2008 CET | From | Selucian People's Party | To | Debating the {ISEP} Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | We oppose this bill. People will always do some amount of self-damaging activity, and alcohol is to old a tradition to ever truely be extinguished. Besides, who doesn't enjoy a glass of wine from time to time? |
| Date | 15:37:08, April 05, 2008 CET | From | Independent Selucian Empire Party | To | Debating the {ISEP} Alcoholic Beverages Bill |
| Message | The ISEP must have missed the part of the bill where we advocated banning alcohol. We are advocating for the licensing of premises selling alcohol. Tradition should not take precedence over public health issues. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 211 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 289 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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