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Bill: Prop 87

Details

Submitted by[?]: Am Echad, Pays Libre

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2575

Description[?]:

TransGender.

This bill calls for the illigalisation of changing genders. This bill with fine anyone performing a sex change any amount depending on the Mehoz. This is for the safty of the people. Also, It is to respect the Torah, and Bible.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date23:57:49, April 12, 2008 CET
FromNew Socialist Agenda
ToDebating the Prop 87
Message"There are five major points we would like to make:

1) Absolutely not.
2) Impractical.
3) How would you enforce this without violating the rights of our citizens?
4) Why? What do you care anyway?
5) Don't like sex changes? Don't get one!"

-Raamiah Galgenstrick,
Chairman of the GJA
Foreign Minister of the SJHB

Date23:14:42, April 13, 2008 CET
FromNew Socialist Agenda
ToDebating the Prop 87
Message""This is for the safty of the people."

How does it make anyone any safer?

"Also, It is to respect the Torah, and Bible."

Not everyone is Jewish. What about the Agnostics? The Atheists? The Pantheists? The Buddhists? And just about every other religion you can think of?

You always claim you wish to make the country safer, but all these sorts of bills are going to do is raise tensions. Soon you'll have a nation divided down the middle between the Jewish conservatives and the non-Jewish libertarians and anarchists. You'll have gangs, riots, and holy books burning in the streets. Is that what the CZP wants?"
-Raamiah Galgenstrick,
Chairman of the GJA
Foreign Minister of the SJHB

Date23:28:04, April 13, 2008 CET
FromAm Echad, Pays Libre
ToDebating the Prop 87
MessageI want a land where men and women are not seduced by drag queens and Kings out side after being drunk. This is for the purity of the nation. I am not suprised you are so against this. I bet the GXH-5328 runs and/or operates many of the places doing these acts.

Date20:34:20, April 14, 2008 CET
FromNew Socialist Agenda
ToDebating the Prop 87
Message"Doing what acts? Allowing people to do what they want and take responsibility for their own actions?

There is a concept called personal responsibility. If you're an adult and you're irresponsible, you deserve bad things to happen to you. Most irresponsible people (eventually) learn from their mistakes.

The government is not a parent, never was, cannot be, and should not be. Let the irresponsibles make mistakes that they may learn from them.

We do not condone people "being seduced" by such people, but we strongly object to the government taking action to prevent it."
-Raamiah Galgenstrick,
Chairman of the GJA
Foreign Minister of the SJHB

Date13:40:12, May 11, 2008 CET
FromArchon Revolutionary Militia
ToDebating the Prop 87
Message"We may be authoritarians, but we could care less what creepy things suit others' fancies."
-Judy Gottlos, Head Archon of the ARM

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 58

no
    

Total Seats: 294

abstain
   

Total Seats: 48


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