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Bill: Military Reform 2564.9

Details

Submitted by[?]: Legally Stoned Democrats

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 2565

Description[?]:

We firmly beleive that Endralon should be able to fully protect it's territory, so the current pacifist laws have to be revised.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date14:00:31, April 21, 2008 CET
FromEndralon Confederates Party
ToDebating the Military Reform 2564.9
MessageCan't vote for this because of 3.

Date15:38:40, April 21, 2008 CET
FromLegally Stoned Democrats
ToDebating the Military Reform 2564.9
MessageWe think that in times of war all adults should be able to protect the country if needed.

Date17:02:22, April 21, 2008 CET
FromChidan Party
ToDebating the Military Reform 2564.9
MessageWith the current law, all adults ARE able to protect the country, if they so choose, and that's how it should stay.You cannot make any citizen fight a war they don't agree with or one in which they don't want any part in.

Date18:20:43, April 21, 2008 CET
FromNew Liberal Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Military Reform 2564.9
MessageLike all mixed salads, we wish we could take out the bad bits, but on balance this is a good bill.

Date18:38:16, April 21, 2008 CET
FromLegally Stoned Democrats
ToDebating the Military Reform 2564.9
MessageWould any other country attack Endralon then it's the duty of all able citizen to defend it's nation. No excuses.
Endralon has strong militaristic traditions anyway, so we think the majority of the people would support this idea.

Date22:05:02, April 21, 2008 CET
FromEndralon Confederates Party
ToDebating the Military Reform 2564.9
Message"Would any other country attack Endralon then it's the duty of all able citizen to defend it's nation. No excuses."

Not true. The citizens of Endralon are not morally required to fight a war they don't agree with or to defend a government that they feel is morally corrupt or in the wrong. Furthermore, such a belief assumes that the government has some right to people's lives through the ability to force them to fight and die to protect that government; I believe that is wrong.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 157

no
    

Total Seats: 429

abstain
 

Total Seats: 164


Random fact: The majority of nations in Particracy are "Culturally Protected" with an established cultural background. Only the "Culturally Open" nations are not bound by the rules surrounding culture. The Cultural Protocols Index should be consulted for more information about the cultural situation of each nation.

Random quote: "Idealism is fine; but as it approaches reality, the cost becomes prohibitive." - William F. Buckley, Jr.

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