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Bill: GJA Personal Responsibility X - 5.12.2567.AD
Details
Submitted by[?]: New Socialist Agenda
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2568
Description[?]:
| "Ever heard of contingency fees? "No win, no fee?" Obviously, the quality of service for contingency lawyers will not be as high as those lawyers paid upfront, but then again, the quality of service of government hired lawyers generally isn't that higher either (unless the government is the one being defended). Even if the defendant has no money, a contingency lawyer could defend the defendant, if there were reason to believe he or she had a case, so long as the defendant wins because if the defendant wins, the prosecutors could be sued for restitution, court fees, and lawyer compensation for filing litigious lawsuits." -Raamiah Galgenstrick, Chairman of the GJA Foreign Minister of the SJHB |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government provision of legal aid to the accused.
Old value:: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Current: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Proposed: Legal representation is never paid for by the state.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:19:47, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Jewish Mothers' Union | To | Debating the GJA Personal Responsibility X - 5.12.2567.AD |
| Message | This will deprive the poor of the means to access justice. Melanie Koffenbaum (Leader of the JMU) |
| Date | 21:37:03, April 26, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Agenda | To | Debating the GJA Personal Responsibility X - 5.12.2567.AD |
| Message | "No it doesn't, as explained. Please read bill descriptions before making broad and general statements that have been debunked before you made them. There is something very common called contingency. Perhaps look it up if you are not aware of this term." -Raamiah Galgenstrick, Chairman of the GJA Foreign Minister of the SJHB |
| Date | 22:00:51, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Jewish Mothers' Union | To | Debating the GJA Personal Responsibility X - 5.12.2567.AD |
| Message | This legislation *will* deprive the poor of access to justice. It will hand the legal aid system over to gamblers, so people will only get a good lawyer if a legal company - taking only a preliminary look at the case - decides it is financially worthwhile pursuing. Melanie Koffenbaum (Leader of the JMU) |
| Date | 14:28:48, April 27, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Agenda | To | Debating the GJA Personal Responsibility X - 5.12.2567.AD |
| Message | "Sometimes it is obvious before the trial that someone has committed the crime or not. Let's not waste society's capital by paying lawyers to defend hopeless cases." -Raamiah Galgenstrick, Chairman of the GJA Foreign Minister of the SJHB |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 144 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 212 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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