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Bill: GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD
Details
Submitted by[?]: New Socialist Agenda
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2568
Description[?]:
| "Animals are NOT people, they are NOT sentient, they are NOT creative, and they do NOT deserve equal rights." -Raamiah Galgenstrick, Chairman of the GJA Foreign Minister of the SJHB |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of animals in cosmetics research.
Old value:: The use of animals to test cosmetic products is regulated.
Current: Animals may not be used for testing cosmetics products.
Proposed: The use of animals to test cosmetic products is unregulated.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The use of animals in medical research.
Old value:: The use of animals in research is subject to basic regulations.
Current: The use of animals in research is subject to basic regulations.
Proposed: There are no restrictions on the use of animals for research.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:16:23, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Jewish Mothers' Union | To | Debating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD |
| Message | We do not claim that animals are human, nor that they are necessarily equal to humans, but they *are* sentient, they can feel pain and we have a God-given duty to treat them with reasonable respect. Melanie Koffenbaum (Leader of the JMU) |
| Date | 21:30:44, April 26, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Agenda | To | Debating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD |
| Message | "Not ALL of them are sentient. Maybe elephants. Maybe dolphins. Maybe primates. But these animals are not financially or scientifically sensible to be used for testing. The other animals are not sentient. They cannot even recognize themselves in mirrors, or remorse over death, or create art, or other such things. And the god that you believe in, if I am not mistaken, supposedly gave "Adam and Eve" charge over all of the animals. Humans still have that charge and power." -Raamiah Galgenstrick, Chairman of the GJA Foreign Minister of the SJHB |
| Date | 21:51:16, April 26, 2008 CET | From | Jewish Mothers' Union | To | Debating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD |
| Message | The Torah contains a number of laws which indicate God's concern for the dignity and welfare of animals. Melanie Koffenbaum (Leader of the JMU) |
| Date | 14:25:20, April 27, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Agenda | To | Debating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD |
| Message | "The Torah also puts man in charge of animals. The Torah also contradicts itself several times. Religion is not a viable basis for this subject. We must decide on this issue using innate natural morality built-in to all of us, regardless of religion, and using scientific facts as empirical evidence." -Raamiah Galgenstrick, Chairman of the GJA Foreign Minister of the SJHB |
| Date | 15:45:12, April 27, 2008 CET | From | Jewish Mothers' Union | To | Debating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD |
| Message | It is the GJAs chronic lack of reference to either innate natural morality or empirical evidence that disturbs us so much. They are crazed ideologues bent on anarchy. Melanie Koffenbaum (Leader of the JMU) |
| Date | 16:01:34, April 27, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Agenda | To | Debating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD |
| Message | "Apparently the JMU lacks the understanding of the term "natural morality," and the term "empirical evidence," since they are obviously using them incorrectly in the context. Perhaps they should not swing around words and concepts their minds are too small to understand. Our apologies - we will try to dumb down our vocabulary in the future when speaking with the JMU, that they might be able to understand and the words wont be "too big."" -Raamiah Galgenstrick, Chairman of the GJA Foreign Minister of the SJHB |
| Date | 16:03:48, April 27, 2008 CET | From | Jewish Mothers' Union | To | Debating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD |
| Message | <slaps Raamiah Galgenstrick hard across the face> Melanie Koffenbaum (Leader of the JMU) |
| Date | 16:05:56, April 27, 2008 CET | From | HaLeumit Tikvah | To | Debating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD |
| Message | *Cheers and laughter from the HaLeumit Tikvah seats.* |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 227 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 129 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Particracy does not allow role-play that seems to belong to the world of fantasy, science fiction and futuristic speculation. |
| Random quote: "Conservative, n: A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others." - Ambrose Bierce |