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Bill: GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD

Details

Submitted by[?]: New Socialist Agenda

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2568

Description[?]:

"Animals are NOT people, they are NOT sentient, they are NOT creative, and they do NOT deserve equal rights."
-Raamiah Galgenstrick,
Chairman of the GJA
Foreign Minister of the SJHB

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:16:23, April 26, 2008 CET
FromJewish Mothers' Union
ToDebating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD
MessageWe do not claim that animals are human, nor that they are necessarily equal to humans, but they *are* sentient, they can feel pain and we have a God-given duty to treat them with reasonable respect.


Melanie Koffenbaum (Leader of the JMU)

Date21:30:44, April 26, 2008 CET
FromNew Socialist Agenda
ToDebating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD
Message"Not ALL of them are sentient. Maybe elephants. Maybe dolphins. Maybe primates. But these animals are not financially or scientifically sensible to be used for testing.

The other animals are not sentient. They cannot even recognize themselves in mirrors, or remorse over death, or create art, or other such things.

And the god that you believe in, if I am not mistaken, supposedly gave "Adam and Eve" charge over all of the animals. Humans still have that charge and power."
-Raamiah Galgenstrick,
Chairman of the GJA
Foreign Minister of the SJHB

Date21:51:16, April 26, 2008 CET
FromJewish Mothers' Union
ToDebating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD
MessageThe Torah contains a number of laws which indicate God's concern for the dignity and welfare of animals.


Melanie Koffenbaum (Leader of the JMU)

Date14:25:20, April 27, 2008 CET
FromNew Socialist Agenda
ToDebating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD
Message"The Torah also puts man in charge of animals. The Torah also contradicts itself several times. Religion is not a viable basis for this subject. We must decide on this issue using innate natural morality built-in to all of us, regardless of religion, and using scientific facts as empirical evidence."
-Raamiah Galgenstrick,
Chairman of the GJA
Foreign Minister of the SJHB

Date15:45:12, April 27, 2008 CET
FromJewish Mothers' Union
ToDebating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD
MessageIt is the GJAs chronic lack of reference to either innate natural morality or empirical evidence that disturbs us so much. They are crazed ideologues bent on anarchy.


Melanie Koffenbaum (Leader of the JMU)

Date16:01:34, April 27, 2008 CET
FromNew Socialist Agenda
ToDebating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD
Message"Apparently the JMU lacks the understanding of the term "natural morality," and the term "empirical evidence," since they are obviously using them incorrectly in the context. Perhaps they should not swing around words and concepts their minds are too small to understand. Our apologies - we will try to dumb down our vocabulary in the future when speaking with the JMU, that they might be able to understand and the words wont be "too big.""
-Raamiah Galgenstrick,
Chairman of the GJA
Foreign Minister of the SJHB

Date16:03:48, April 27, 2008 CET
FromJewish Mothers' Union
ToDebating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD
Message<slaps Raamiah Galgenstrick hard across the face>


Melanie Koffenbaum (Leader of the JMU)

Date16:05:56, April 27, 2008 CET
FromHaLeumit Tikvah
ToDebating the GJA Animals Are Not People - 5.18.2567.AD
Message*Cheers and laughter from the HaLeumit Tikvah seats.*

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Total Seats: 227

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Total Seats: 129

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