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Bill: Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328
Details
Submitted by[?]: Am Echad, Pays Libre
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2571
Description[?]:
| This bill calls for the declaration of war against the GXH and its assets. Everything and Everybody owned, operated, and affiliated with them will be seized for as federal property or tried for treason. The leaders of the former GJA will be tried on counts of High Treason in the Supreme Court. L'olam will be occupied by a small occupation force and will be renamed "Ness Ziona" (Banner to Zion). The Curfew will be 9:00 and in L'olam (soon to be called Ness Ziona) 8:00. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The citizens' right to assemble in public.
Old value:: The police may disperse a group if they believe it poses a potential risk to public safety.
Current: There are no restrictions on the right of citizens to assemble in groups.
Proposed: The police may disperse a group without giving any reason.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:36:34, April 27, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Agenda | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | "Exactly how do you intend upon going about the seizure of L'olam?" -Sophia Galgenstrick, Archon of the NSA |
| Date | 20:48:14, April 27, 2008 CET | From | New Socialist Agenda | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | [OOC] Since the HaLeumit Tikvah has already proposed a similar proposal, the CZP should remove this one. BTW - there is a typo in the title. |
| Date | 22:47:00, April 27, 2008 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | OOC: but this one explains more details and stuff |
| Date | 17:47:33, May 04, 2008 CET | From | Archon Revolutionary Militia | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | [OOC] Why are you putting this to a vote now? |
| Date | 17:49:13, May 04, 2008 CET | From | Archon Revolutionary Militia | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | "You realize the leaders of the Agorists, the GJA, GXH-5328, and founders of L'olam gave themselves up, right? The only thing we have to do now is come to an agreement with the current people of L'olam, which never originated from Beiteynu, and we believe we have come to this agreement finally. Why do you bring this to vote now?" -Judy Gottlos, Head Archon of the ARM |
| Date | 18:02:36, May 04, 2008 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | Gaduridos recognizes L'olam Gaduridos Commissar for Foreign Affairs Reynaldo Guerra has announced that, effective now, the L'olam Establishment has Gaduridos' diplomatic recognition as the official government of L'olam. In a statement to the Chamber of Deputies, Commissar Guerra condemned the blockade of L'olam by Beiteynu as unnecessary and unjustified, saying "This blockade of L'olam violates international law. Beiteynu has not declared war with L'olam, and L'olam has not committed one act of aggression towards Beiteynu, yet Beiteynu is still blockading L'olam, which is an act of war. Therefore, I introduce this bill to provide military and humanitarian assistance to L'olam." _______________________________ If this passes in Gaduridos we must let them know that we will not let them do that. Also, they broke international law but seezing land from a nation and forming there own. |
| Date | 18:13:18, May 04, 2008 CET | From | Archon Revolutionary Militia | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | "The current people that are there did not seize the land. That would be like saying it is the fault of the current generations living in Dovani that their ancestors seized the land from the native peoples there. Everyone in L'olam now has come from other places around the world." -Judy Gottlos, Head Archon of the ARM |
| Date | 18:18:13, May 04, 2008 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | it has only been there a couple of years i think it is still inhabited wit the trouble makers that started it. it is not that old. it is our land not theres! |
| Date | 18:49:13, May 04, 2008 CET | From | Frente de Libertação de Vintãli | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | "Beiteynu stole that land first. The GXH was just taking it back from the thieves. If this bill passes, we will consider Beiteynu as hostile to Gaduridos, as Gaduridos has interests in L'olam. This bill singles out GXH for their political views and prosecutes them, which is a violation of the freedom of association. L'olam has not committed one act of aggression against Beiteynu, and yet the imperialists in Beiteynu are already declaring war on them." - Reynaldo Guerra, Gaduridos Commissar for Foreign Affairs |
| Date | 18:56:54, May 04, 2008 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | We do not listen to a worthles party like your with no seats in your legislature. |
| Date | 19:06:20, May 04, 2008 CET | From | Frente de Libertação de Vintãli | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | We used to have 11 seats in the legislature, but we lost them. And you may disagree with us, but we're the Gaduridos Commissar for Foreign Affairs. |
| Date | 21:16:34, May 04, 2008 CET | From | Jewish Mothers' Union | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | We would like this problem to be solved without jeopardising civil liberties in this way. Melanie Koffenbaum (Minister of Foreign Affairs & Leader of the JMU) |
| Date | 15:23:08, May 05, 2008 CET | From |  Ma'avak | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | "If Gaduridos attempts any form of military expedition into Squibble we are confident the other member states of the Squibble Colonies Agreement would join us in resisting such imperialism." -- Tamir Kirschenbaum, Minister of Internal Affairs/General Secretary of the Ma'avak movement |
| Date | 00:03:22, May 06, 2008 CET | From | Frente de Libertação de Vintãli | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | Beiteynu is the one that's being imperialist. They and the other member states of the Squibble Colonies Agreement are taking land in faraway continents that used to belong to the indigenous people, without their consent. L'olam is simply taking it back from the thieves. |
| Date | 00:48:03, May 06, 2008 CET | From | Am Echad, Pays Libre | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | l'olam are forgners as well. They are the same or worse then us. Do not be a hippocrate. |
| Date | 01:23:53, May 06, 2008 CET | From | Frente de Libertação de Vintãli | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | Either way, this bill didn't pass. The Rildanor Accords say that a declaration of war has to be approved by 50% of all seats, which is 201 seats. This bill only got 106 votes. So this bill didn't pass. I don't like that rule either, but rules are rules. |
| Date | 12:28:04, May 06, 2008 CET | From | Ma'avak | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | "The indigenous people of Squibble are genetically related to the Beiteynuese people, we are not taking land away merely reuniting the Hebrew people accross Terra." -- Tamir Kirschenbaum, Minister of Internal Affairs/General Secretary of the Ma'avak movement |
| Date | 13:44:58, May 06, 2008 CET | From | Frente de Libertação de Vintãli | To | Debating the Declaration of War aginst the GJA and GXH-5328 |
| Message | "The indigenous people of Vintalli are genetically related to the Kalistanian people, but do you see them taking land away from us?" -- Reynaldo Guerra, Gaduridos Commissar for Foreign Affairs |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 106 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 102 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 192 |
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