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Bill: Azael Initiative: Emir control
Details
Submitted by[?]: Judiciary Patriciate Coalition
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2575
Description[?]:
| This bill passes control of provinces onto the Emirs of each province as they are elected. The "military" in these bills is the paramilitary of the party involved. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The citizens' right to assemble in public.
Old value:: The police may disperse a group if they believe it poses a potential risk to public safety.
Current: The police may disperse a group if they believe it poses a potential risk to public safety.
Proposed: The police may disperse a group without giving any reason.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Current: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Proposed: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Citizens may own any type of weapon. They may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Current: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Proposed: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:05:20, May 11, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the Azael Initiative: Emir control |
| Message | Article 1: No. Article 2: No. Article 3: Yes. |
| Date | 01:21:24, May 11, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the Azael Initiative: Emir control |
| Message | Could you explain your positions? And any compromise available |
| Date | 01:34:05, May 11, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the Azael Initiative: Emir control |
| Message | Article 1: Decreases our total number of armed individuals available and distracts the military from their real purpose. Also, my militia is often out of country so this would leave Kuchifey without any security forces some of the time. Article 2: I've just decided to switch to being a pro-weapon, anti-weapon regulation party. |
| Date | 01:36:54, May 11, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the Azael Initiative: Emir control |
| Message | What is their real purpose? We have no international relations to speak of at present, let alone hostile ones. Actually no it wouldn't, seeing as that Emirate is not under your control. Fair enough, strange shift to make |
| Date | 01:38:26, May 11, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the Azael Initiative: Emir control |
| Message | It's not? Whose control is it under then? |
| Date | 02:29:45, May 11, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the Azael Initiative: Emir control |
| Message | The communist party |
| Date | 02:31:17, May 11, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the Azael Initiative: Emir control |
| Message | Ah, they do control the governorship don't they? Guess it's good they're not a member of the P-TRA then. |
| Date | 11:51:01, May 11, 2008 CET | From | Judiciary Patriciate Coalition | To | Debating the Azael Initiative: Emir control |
| Message | Surely the P-TRA doesn't claim all your militia? |
| Date | 12:02:43, May 11, 2008 CET | From | Kafuri Socialist Party | To | Debating the Azael Initiative: Emir control |
| Message | Yep. Unless I've asked to hold onto it. Which I haven't. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 114 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 438 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 163 |
| Random fact: The players in a nation have a collective responsibility to ensure their "Bills under debate" section is kept in good order. Bills which are irrelevant or have become irrelevant should be deleted. Deletion can be requested for bills proposed by inactive parties on the Bill Clearout Requests thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4363 |
| Random quote: "I have come to the conclusion that politics are too serious a matter to be left to the politicians." - Charles de Gaulle |