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Bill: Reform of Education System Act I
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rutanian Democratic Forum
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2578
Description[?]:
| In our country, education is compulsory, and RDF thinks it is a great civilizational achievement of all major political factors who voted for such decision, and inspite of neoliberal policy of non- education. Now, RDF thinks we need a public education system. We have already private schools, who run partly or mostly on profit basis, but they also support their own, private interests. Private schools cannot and never will support _public_ interests, which are in the interest of _whole_ society. Therefore, RDF thinks it is necessary to introduce public schools, with guaranteed quality, and guaranted income, which will support causes of whole society. That will also decrease some expenses of private schooling, and the government will have to pay less for schooling of children. Now, we just pay all what private schools say, but with public schools we believe that the money will be used effectively. P.S. In fact, if the new government will be elected, RDF and its minister of education will do everything to accomplish that goal. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The education system.
Old value:: Education is private, but the government issues vouchers to pay for the schooling of disadvantaged children.
Current: There is a free public education system alongside private schools.
Proposed: There is a free public education system alongside private schools.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:39:31, May 15, 2008 CET | From |  Commonwealth Party | To | Debating the Reform of Education System Act I |
| Message | We were long supporters of this kind of proposal. |
| Date | 22:57:29, May 15, 2008 CET | From | Fair and Equal World Party | To | Debating the Reform of Education System Act I |
| Message | We must fix the budget first or simultaneously - allocate more funds to education (and less to defense). |
| Date | 23:30:14, May 15, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Reform of Education System Act I |
| Message | Agree with FEWP. This should be the task of new (or old, how it comes) Minister of Finance. Our country should be protected, but not with 50 % of budget allocated to defence and uneducated people :) |
| Date | 01:53:49, May 16, 2008 CET | From | Federal Rutanian Libertarian Union | To | Debating the Reform of Education System Act I |
| Message | We are not supporters of this proposal, this will in turn reduce the quality of our schools altogether as we believe the private system is working to attract students and must provide the best system possible. A public system will only result in inefficiencies and will force up the price of education as it is. |
| Date | 02:36:03, May 16, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Reform of Education System Act I |
| Message | We don't agree, private schools want to make profit in the first order, or they working toward that goal. Public schools can also maintain its financial stability, but they are determined by public interests (decided by the local governments or federal government), and not primarily through profit. |
| Date | 03:33:03, May 16, 2008 CET | From | Federal Rutanian Libertarian Union | To | Debating the Reform of Education System Act I |
| Message | And we believe because they work for profit, they need to attract as many customers and thus students as possible, and in order to do that they must appear to provide a better system than all their competitors in the area. We do believe in a somewhat uniform curriculum, but not in public funding for education. |
| Date | 11:38:53, May 16, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Reform of Education System Act I |
| Message | Maybe they'll provide the best system (considering that there IS an ideal "market") but tuition will stay high, the expenses will stay high, and they will work for their profit (because a person just cannot change school every month if he doesn't like it..he'll have to stay in that school for some period of time,even if he doesn't want to). RDF feels very uncomfortable when speaking of education "market". Education is not a market thing, it's not a "product"; and we just don't feel right with such a "neocapitalistic" view of things. Also, what about that "non- profitable" areas? as science, fundamental science, or social and humanistic science? Many people just don't like science- physics, chemistry, mathematics, and we need THEM to make a progress, because engineers alone cannot make a technological leap forward. This private education system encourages wrong things, things that are "profitable"; and therefore we just don't have enough people in natural sciences (in schools, but also later in the universities), and that's significant barrier toward our economical and other development. Think about that! |
| Date | 02:08:49, May 17, 2008 CET | From | Federal Rutanian Libertarian Union | To | Debating the Reform of Education System Act I |
| Message | What on earth are you talking about, "non-profitable" areas? Private Schools, in my personal experience, encourage their students to excel through the fact that they want their students to take subjects in which they would succeed - not only is that good for the school but also better for the student. The private system is already competitive enough to support itself with lower prices, better quality of education, and better student satisfaction. A public system will simply just ruin the quality of education that we have in this country and we will not allow for that to happen. |
| Date | 03:22:28, May 17, 2008 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Reform of Education System Act I |
| Message | Students are not customers. Education is not a 'service', it is a right, and as such, should not be run by private comapnies which can enforce their own ethos, slant on subjects and price people out of a good education - and all this without being publicly accountable. We in the Labour Party, having experienced state school, find it quite insulting that the Liberal Party can argue that a "public system will simply just ruin the quality of education." The act does not abolish private schooling, and thus the element of 'choice' survives. A key tenet of liberalism, no? If the Liberal Party wishes to advocate private schooling that is fine, but those who would prefer a publicly accountable, and state run education system have that right too, and should not be denied it, just as this act does not deny those wealthy individuals who think otherwise to opt for private education. |
| Date | 11:42:02, May 17, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Reform of Education System Act I |
| Message | RDF agrees with Labour Party, excellent said :)) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 244 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 161 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 194 |
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