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Bill: Individual investment and ownership rights Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Rutanian Democratic Forum
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2603
Description[?]:
| with regarding to DWC. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on Democratic Workers' Councils.
Old value:: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Current: The government encourages the formation of Democratic Workers' Councils through subsidies and tax exemptions.
Proposed: Democratic Workers' Councils are not permitted to run a business.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:10:04, July 06, 2008 CET | From |  The National Party for the People | To | Debating the Individual investment and ownership rights Act |
| Message | Why? What is a DWC? |
| Date | 15:15:12, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Individual investment and ownership rights Act |
| Message | democratic workers' council. |
| Date | 18:24:00, July 06, 2008 CET | From | The National Party for the People | To | Debating the Individual investment and ownership rights Act |
| Message | What does it do? |
| Date | 19:06:14, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Individual investment and ownership rights Act |
| Message | It's like workers participation in the management, firm is not owned just by some individuals, but also by workers...that's the intention... |
| Date | 21:25:21, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Individual investment and ownership rights Act |
| Message | Why are workers not permitted to run a business? This is absurd. |
| Date | 23:06:30, July 06, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Individual investment and ownership rights Act |
| Message | because it's step into socialism. Workers' participation yes - but we support individual ownership and all rights and obligations that come from that system. |
| Date | 02:21:53, July 07, 2008 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Individual investment and ownership rights Act |
| Message | Workers' cooperatives are a perfectly legitimate type of business. And it can hardly be a step into socialism if we still have a free market economy. In addition, how can it even be remotely democratic for individuals to be allowed to own and run a business, but for a multitude of individuals who freely choose to cooperate to be denied this right. So, groups have no rights, but individuals who work to exploit these groups have many. This is wrong, and certainly not an example of the government keeping out of the economy. It is interesting that the RRDF could not vote in favour of a government recycling scheme, but yet feels perfectly able to step into the economy to ensure that there is no real diversity or democracy within it. It is time for the RRDF to decide whether they support a free market and laissez-faire economy, or democracy. |
| Date | 04:02:18, July 07, 2008 CET | From | Federal Rutanian Libertarian Union | To | Debating the Individual investment and ownership rights Act |
| Message | May we point out that laissez-faire economies and democracy are not mutually exclusive? The RRDF has the perogative to argue its point in this way and we shall support it in it's intentions. |
| Date | 15:28:14, July 07, 2008 CET | From | Rutanian Democratic Forum | To | Debating the Individual investment and ownership rights Act |
| Message | RRDF does not support laissez- faire economy, but free market with some regulations, because we do not believe in entirely "free" market that can self- regulate. We support democracy, of course, but this is not a question of laissez- faire or regulation, nor a question of democracy or socialism. RRDF stands for ownership rights and ownership responsibilities. We support workers' participation in ownership, but only through standard institutions - stocks or co-ownership. We do not support creating some collective ownership because it blurs the responsibilities which every ownership brings with itself. DWCs are, in our opinion, a step toward bluring true ownership rights and responsibilities. Regarding recycling policy, as we argued, we would like to avoid unnecessary government intervention into industry and economy, government is here only to control the institutions of social responsibility and to ensure individual freedoms and liberties through progressive social policy, regulating market in such a way that this individual liberties stay protected. We consider policy toward DWC as a way to protect individual rights but also individual responsibilities, and policy toward recycling facilities is considered as some intervention - government can support recycling facilities, but not fund them entirely. Free market and democracy are not exclusive, but collective responsibility, which is equal to individual unresponsiblity and diffusion of responsiblity, could have negative influences on personal liberties. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 374 | ||
| no |
Total Seats: 133 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 89 |
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