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Bill: Further Union Rights
Details
Submitted by[?]: Front for Popular Liberation
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2604
Description[?]:
| The internal workings of trade unions are no business of the state |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Trade union strike ballots.
Old value:: Trade unions must by law hold a ballot of all members before going on strike, majority approval of those that vote is needed from its members.
Current: Trade unions must by law hold a ballot of all members before going on strike, majority approval of those that vote is needed from its members.
Proposed: Trade unions are not required by law to hold a ballot before striking.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:27:36, July 09, 2008 CET | From | Kirlawan National Party (Leftists) | To | Debating the Further Union Rights |
| Message | No, I do believe we must ensure that trade unions represent the will of their workers. We do not think that unions have the right to force their workers to strike, the workers must approve of it. |
| Date | 18:45:51, July 09, 2008 CET | From | Front for Popular Liberation | To | Debating the Further Union Rights |
| Message | We believe in democracy in trade unions, however we do not think it should be enforced by the state. The current legislation takes power out of the hands of ordinary workers to take spontaneous decisions in the face of decisions by management and puts it into the hands of union bureucrats who will be running the vote. |
| Date | 18:48:36, July 09, 2008 CET | From | Kirlawan National Party (Leftists) | To | Debating the Further Union Rights |
| Message | No, we do feel that the state should mandate democratic decision making in unions. Otherwise, we will move towards Stalinism, which is not true socialism. |
| Date | 18:57:36, July 09, 2008 CET | From | Gluaiseacht Shaoráil DhaonlathachIt | To | Debating the Further Union Rights |
| Message | Yes, we agree here. The DFM favour free market policies but we also believe that this will be possible when the worker's rights are well protected. |
| Date | 19:24:56, July 09, 2008 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Party | To | Debating the Further Union Rights |
| Message | We completely oppose this. We are key supporters of the rights and role of trade unions but there must be democracy, lest we face the danger of cabals of unaccountable leaders. |
| Date | 17:47:29, July 10, 2008 CET | From | Front for Popular Liberation | To | Debating the Further Union Rights |
| Message | ''No, we do feel that the state should mandate democratic decision making in unions. Otherwise, we will move towards Stalinism, which is not true socialism'' DSP, are you in any way aware of the irony in what you said there? The state controlling decisions in worker's oraganisations was a central pillar of stalinism |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 337 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 352 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 28 |
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