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Bill: Smoking Act
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2606
Description[?]:
| It should be left up to local governments, at the discretion of the property owner. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking.
Old value:: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in places of employment, with the exception of places that primarily serve liquor.
Current: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in all places of employment.
Proposed: Smoking regulations are to be determined by local governments.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:22:25, July 15, 2008 CET | From | Dranland First Party (CC) | To | Debating the Smoking Act |
| Message | A sound proposal. We support completely. Unfortunately there seems to be a large voting bloc in parliament, consisting of numerous parties, who consistently vote to strengthen the federal government and the federal welfare state, and to strip local governments of their rightful authority. It is surprising, as we would have thought that some parties in this voting bloc would have voted for smaller federal government, but clearly this is not the case. |
| Date | 04:18:17, July 15, 2008 CET | From | Party | To | Debating the Smoking Act |
| Message | We do not quite understand this either. Some parties who claim that they stand for freedom and liberty, continuously vote to strengthen the federal government, and take away the rights of the people to govern themselves. |
| Date | 05:21:21, July 15, 2008 CET | From | Sons of Liberty | To | Debating the Smoking Act |
| Message | Freedom and liberty is the individual, not a governing group. Democracy is not liberty - it is one more than half opressing the other half. "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on what to eat for dinner." If even one person is oppressed or denied their individual liberty, then evil has been comitted. Government is inherantly evil, inherantly wrong. Giving the rights to the local government meant that one city can vote to ban guns, to ban words and thoughts, to ban any liberty they want by convincing one more than half to vote a certain way. |
| Date | 05:46:38, July 15, 2008 CET | From | Party | To | Debating the Smoking Act |
| Message | I never said Democracy was liberty. And I do support individual rights, and those rights include: the right to freedom of speech the right to keep and bear arms the right to protection from unreasonable search and seizure the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and, states rights, or in our case, provinces' rights, and that any power not given to the federal government from the constitution, should be left up to the provinces respectivily, or the people. |
| Date | 05:51:58, July 15, 2008 CET | From | Party | To | Debating the Smoking Act |
| Message | How can you achieve liberty if you let the federal government decide all laws? What if the federal government decides to impose the oppression and tyranny we are strongly against? Its alot easier to move to a new province than it is to leave the country. |
| Date | 06:47:38, July 15, 2008 CET | From | Sons of Liberty | To | Debating the Smoking Act |
| Message | It's not power to the federal government we've granted , though. We are simply ridding us of any laws forbidding any individual action. Our goal is to completely be rid of government, to achieve a nigh Anarcho-Capitalist nation. By mandating individual liberty across the nation, it ensures that all areas we have ward over are completely free for the individual. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 72 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 193 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: "Jezvraljogadsrlji" means "Social" in the Jelbic languages. |
| Random quote: "I think you should defend to the death their right to march, and then go down and meet them with baseball bats." - Woody Allen, on the Ku Klux Klan |