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Bill: Subsidizing Pine Agriculture
Details
Submitted by[?]: Junker Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2118
Description[?]:
| We find it extremely necessary to subsidize farmers who have pine forest, for two major facts. 1. The pine industry is an extremely ardous industry which requires a lot of cleaning [as owning several pine forests myself, I can tell you that from my heart]. Those farmers who aren't 'persuaded' to clean normally leave trash accumulated, there. Trash accumulates in several forms, including by the farmers themselves [minimal] or passerbys [more than you would expect]. This trash is the principle propellant for forest fires [the trash lights on fire, or starts the fire], and consequently, it becomes a potential hazard. 2. Pine forests are extremely healthy for the country's ecology and promotes clean air, bountiful oxygen, and a basic wild life reserve for the nation's animals. It is to say, those are two reasons to subsidize pine farming, and they are important. By subsidizing this farming by giving farmers with pines two thousand United States Dollars per annum it would persuade them both to clean and to keep their pine forests. Of course, the major prerequisite to getting this money would be as follows: A. You have to request it. The government [they always do] keep records of your land. B.There must be a thorough investigation by local servants of the Ministry of Agriculture. The economical and ecological benefits are too many to list, but those above are the major ones. This policy has worked in Spain, and most likely in every other European country. We implore Aldegar to follow suit. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: The government denies subsidy assistance to farmers.
Current: The government allows local governments to craft agricultural subsidy policy.
Proposed: The government subsidises agriculture based on market demand for the crop being grown.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:02:12, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Liberal Party | To | Debating the Subsidizing Pine Agriculture |
| Message | We believe the government should step in times of difficulty such as drought, flood etc to help Aldegar's farmers, however, we do not wish to subsidise farms as a matter of policy. |
| Date | 05:08:07, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Junker Party | To | Debating the Subsidizing Pine Agriculture |
| Message | I think you're missing the point here. The government wouldn't subsidize farmers in general. It would subsidize it for specific reasons listed above - it's beneficial both to the farmer and to the nation economically and ecologically. In fact, this is the most progressive liberal thing a nation can do. It's been tested to absolute success in Spain. |
| Date | 09:40:02, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Liberal Party | To | Debating the Subsidizing Pine Agriculture |
| Message | Unfortunately a bill description is not the same as the legislative proposal. Unless you can manage to get the admins to include a specific proposal on pine forest we cannot support this Bill. |
| Date | 18:52:27, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Junker Party | To | Debating the Subsidizing Pine Agriculture |
| Message | But it does, because the proposal specifically says the government wil subsidize as it sees fit. Literally it says on how the market reacts, but that translates to whatever the administration feels like subsidizing. But, I'll try to get the admins to do it nonetheless. |
| Date | 19:03:33, September 28, 2005 CET | From | Junker Party | To | Debating the Subsidizing Pine Agriculture |
| Message | It has been decided that the Junker Party will vote 'no', because perhaps a new law will be instated by the administration. This bill will be reintroduced if that happens. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 71 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 250 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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