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Bill: Revolutionary Communist Bill: Atheism and Secularism as the way Forward
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Socialist Union
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2620
Description[?]:
| Before you start ranting on how this is illegal due to the Church of Farbanti, I would once again like to stress that the CUP did NOT have a 2/3 majority at the time being, and although it passed with a majority, it did not pass with enough votes to be considered a change to the constitution. Therefore the Church of Farbanti can not be considered an indivisible part of the government, and any attempt to minimise its role in the government is completely legal. I'm sure the CUP is bound to disagree, and even IF the Church did exist, it was only on Hutorian territory, in an unconstitutional fashion. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: Foreign missionaries are welcomed and encouraged by the government.
Current: The government requires foreign missionaries to register with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Proposed: Foreign missionaries are not permitted to enter the nation.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state nominates ministers of religion, but the appointment is left up to the religious communities themselves.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Current: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Proposed: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: No religions are taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: It is not permitted to wear religious clothing or religious symbols in public buildings.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Current: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: Ministers of religion shall receive no remuneration whatsoever.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Current: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: Any form of religion is banned.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:56:49, August 10, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Union | To | Debating the Revolutionary Communist Bill: Atheism and Secularism as the way Forward |
| Message | This also means that the arrest of one of our politicians was on unconstitutional grounds, by the way. |
| Date | 10:00:36, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Union Party | To | Debating the Revolutionary Communist Bill: Atheism and Secularism as the way Forward |
| Message | This is by far and away illegal. The bill clearly stated that if the bill passed iut would be unrepealable, unless of course the Church planed to repeal it, which would be impossible. Banning the Church of Farbanti would mean the arrest of all of your senior politicians and supporters. Long Live the Church! |
| Date | 10:01:18, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Union Party | To | Debating the Revolutionary Communist Bill: Atheism and Secularism as the way Forward |
| Message | And we didn't need a constitutional majority as those particular bills were proposals and not constitution changers or resolutions. |
| Date | 17:04:54, August 11, 2008 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Union | To | Debating the Revolutionary Communist Bill: Atheism and Secularism as the way Forward |
| Message | To install something which is unrepealable you need a 2/3 majority, therefore this CAN be repealed. |
| Date | 17:58:43, August 11, 2008 CET | From | God's and the King's Fighters | To | Debating the Revolutionary Communist Bill: Atheism and Secularism as the way Forward |
| Message | I think the PRCP is right, for something unrepealable, a 2/3 majority would be needed. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 197 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 103 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Zardugal is a nation based on the old Byzantine Empire, with a modern twist and the Esperanto language. Zardugal is located on the continent of Majatra. |
| Random quote: "Once again, we will wage war against fascism, only this time a civil war of words and politics." - Vladimir Borisov, former Trigunian politician |