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Bill: Democratic Hulstria Act of 2639
Details
Submitted by[?]: Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2640
Description[?]:
| The Democratic Hulstria Act of 2639 declares that the Imperial Crownlands of Greater Hulstria become a republic, the Republic of Greater Hulstria. The monarchy shall be abolished and the position of President replaces it as Head of State. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The lyrics of the national anthem.
Old value:: Tradition, and Honor, and Country, For the Monarchy; This let us all pursue, Brotherly in heart and deed; Tradition, and Honor, and Country, Are the pledge of joy; Prosper in this all of good Gods graces, Prosper, Hulstrian homeland! From the mountains and the valleys, To the meadows and the hills; We will fight the righteous fight, For the Monarchy; Tradition, and Honor, and Country, These things we hold true; Prosper in this all of good Gods graces, Prosper, Hulstrian homeland!
Current:
| 川が流れ、平野が広がる地に、 太陽の抱擁の下、露の優しい潮時に、 海と山々の間、美の誇りに、 自由の歩みの中、団結して立つ。 勇気の地よ、春の最初の日のように緑、 かつて勇敢な者たちがその命を捧げた君のために。 彼らの犠牲は、永遠に私たちの権利として残る、 自由の子供たち、調和の中で祈ります。 多様な系統から、一つの国、大胆で自由な、 すべてに見える統一の遺産。 二つの民族の地、連帯の中で、 私たちが永遠に大切にする、平和と統一の中で。 ====================================== In Ländern, wo Flüsse fließen und Ebenen weit sich strecken, Unter der Sonne Umarmung, im Tau's sanften Wecken, Zwischen dem Meer und Gipfeln, in Schönheit's Stolz, Stehen wir vereint, im Freiheitsschritt so holz. Oh Land des Mutes, grün wie der Frühling's erster Tag, Für dich, gaben die Tapferen einst ihr Leben, ohne Klage. Ihr Opfer, unser Geburtsrecht, für immer zu bleiben, Kinder der Freiheit, in Harmonie wir treiben. Aus diversen Strängen, eine Nation, mutig und frei, Ein Vermächtnis der Einheit, für alle sichtbar dabei. Ein Land zweier Völker, in Solidarität, Mögen wir für immer bewahren, in Frieden und Einigkeit. ====================================== In lands where rivers flow and plains stretch wide, Beneath the sun's embrace, in dew's gentle tide, Between the sea and peaks, in beauty's pride, We stand united, in freedom's stride. Oh, land of valor, green as spring's first day, For thee, the bold once gave their lives away. Their sacrifice, our birthright, forever to stay, Children of liberty, in harmony we pray. From diverse strains, one nation, bold and free, A legacy of unity for all to see. A land of two peoples, in solidarity, May we forever cherish, in peace and unity. |
Proposed:
| Dear land of our fathers, of rivers and plains; Made rich by the sunshine, and lush by the rains, Set gem-like and fair, between mountains and sea, Your children salute you, dear land of the free. Green land of our fathers, our heroes of yore, Both native and settler, laid bones on your shore. This soil so they hallowed, and from them are we, All sons of one Mother, the home of the free. Great land of our fathers, diverse though our strains, We're born of their sacrifice, heirs of their pains, And ours is the glory their eyes did not see, One land of two peoples, united and free. |
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Current: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Proposed: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: His Imperial and Most Illustrious Lutheran Majesty, Rudolph V,
Current: Präsident/Shachō
Proposed: Archon
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The official title of the legislative assembly.
Old value:: Imperial Diet
Current: Parlament/Gikai
Proposed: National Diet
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The official title of subnational entities, also known as regions.
Old value:: Crownland
Current: Region/Chiiki
Proposed: Prefecture
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:37:39, September 20, 2008 CET | From |  Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Democratic Hulstria Act of 2639 |
| Message | "We are resolutely opposed to this bill as we maintain our commitment to His Imperial Majesty and the institution of the Hulstrian monarchy, which serves as a symbol of both continuity and ensures constitutional democracy. However, we find it humourous that the SDR included the term 'settler' in their proposal for an anthem. Are they actually insinuating that Hulstrians whose families have been in this country for over a thousand years are 'settlers'?" -Nicolaas van der Burgh Chairman of the HNP DM for Graaffsberg South HNP Spokesman on Finance |
| Date | 01:09:11, September 20, 2008 CET | From | Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主 | To | Debating the Democratic Hulstria Act of 2639 |
| Message | "Our party would like to state to all parties, particularly the HNP, that the proposed anthem is Land of Our Fathers, the anthem of Gishoto. The song at the time reflected unity between the Gao-Showa and Hulstrians. We did not alter or change the anthem in any way from its original form and do not plan to do so. Any party that is going to, or might support this bill, feel free to make suggestions about flags, titles, etc. We will not put our bill to vote until a later date." - Zhou Peng Chairman of the SDR |
| Date | 01:41:05, September 20, 2008 CET | From | Republican Coalition | To | Debating the Democratic Hulstria Act of 2639 |
| Message | We would like to see the flag amendment removed (that is another issue for another bill, so can be seperated), and the head of state name be amended to "Archon", not President, as this is the historical name of the head of state. |
| Date | 02:19:28, September 20, 2008 CET | From | Traditional Conservative's Party | To | Debating the Democratic Hulstria Act of 2639 |
| Message | "The TCP will never support this bill in 10,000 years. We will never lose our titles and the Emporer never will be dethroned. 70% of this nation is Hulstrian ethnically. You cannot forget about them and their beliefs. As for the national anthem, we do not want the anthem of Gishoti, we want the anthem of Hulstria! Long live the Emporer! Long live Hulstria!" Prince Aleksander II von Scharnhorst, Count of Fyker TCP Chancellor Minister of Finance |
| Date | 02:37:21, September 20, 2008 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the Democratic Hulstria Act of 2639 |
| Message | "Had I been alive, I would have opposed the first and second implementations of Land of our Fathers for the exact reasons that I am opposing this incarnation. Republicanism, despite its promises of unity and peace, has always brought this country only grief and fighting. The HNP are sensitive to the very real concerns that the Gao-Showa minority have about their own interests and the country as a whole. This does not, however, merit the abolition of an effective and stable system which ensures constitutional democracy and preserves the rule of law. Greater Hulstria belongs to all of its citizens, regardless or race, colour, creed, or ancestry united through our common loyalty to our nation and Emperor. That is the idea of Greater Hulstria, not divisive partisanship and petty political squabbles between factions." -Nicolaas van der Burgh Chairman of the HNP DM for Graaffsberg South HNP Spokesman on Finance |
| Date | 03:52:45, September 20, 2008 CET | From | Traditional Conservative's Party | To | Debating the Democratic Hulstria Act of 2639 |
| Message | "We cannot state the sickness that this bill sends to thousands upon thousands of Hulstrians. The Gao-Showa, as the HNP said, need to have rights, but changing many years of tradition just for political gain makes me want to vomit. The SDR need to rethink their strategy from "How can we win?" to "How can we help." Millicent Marie von Scharnhorst TCoE Chairman Minister of Science and Technology |
| Date | 04:19:36, September 20, 2008 CET | From | Königstreue Sozialdemokrat 社会民主 | To | Debating the Democratic Hulstria Act of 2639 |
| Message | "Hulstria does not need an emperor or any sort of monarchy to stay unified. Our current government is ineffective. The people do not elect any of their national leaders. The Emperor of course does not have elections, and the Staatsminister is appointed through bureaucracy and deals between parties. Our party not only represents the Gao-Showa people, but we also represent some of this nation's anti-monarchists, and therefore the dethroning of the Emperor will remain one of our top goals that will be achieved eventually in the future. Hulstria will one day once again become a republic!" - Zhou Peng Chairman of the SDR |
| Date | 02:35:07, September 21, 2008 CET | From | National Conservative Congress | To | Debating the Democratic Hulstria Act of 2639 |
| Message | Against! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 264 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 271 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 65 |
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