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Bill: Firearm Legislation
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Bolshevik Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2669
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Weapon concealment.
Old value:: Any legal weapon may be concealed when carried.
Current: Some categories of weapon must be carried openly, others may be concealed.
Proposed: People must first obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Current: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Proposed: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Citizens may own any type of weapon. They may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Current: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Proposed: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, but these may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:05:31, November 20, 2008 CET | From | National Bolshevik Party | To | Debating the Firearm Legislation |
| Message | No tanks or cruise missiles against standard firearms for our police. There is a sensible compromise. |
| Date | 06:25:01, November 20, 2008 CET | From | Sons of Liberty | To | Debating the Firearm Legislation |
| Message | Big, big, big, big, big time no. My militia's tanks and cruise missiles aren't for the police, they're for this government if it decides to bend us over and grease us up for penetration. |
| Date | 11:08:50, November 20, 2008 CET | From | Dranland First Party (CC) | To | Debating the Firearm Legislation |
| Message | We are not necessarily opposed to article 1, but, as a whole, this legislation would infringe on an important, constitutionally protected right, and as such, it will be met with nothing but stiff resistance. |
| Date | 20:58:04, November 20, 2008 CET | From | Party | To | Debating the Firearm Legislation |
| Message | ABSOLUTEY NOT. Our miltia stands by and is ready to refuse to give up an liberties encroached upon by miltech. And to demand it back by use of arms if neccessary. |
| Date | 22:38:53, November 20, 2008 CET | From | National Bolshevik Party | To | Debating the Firearm Legislation |
| Message | I think we can reason on this issue, ONP, as we are both for sensible controls (especially article 1). We also see article 2 as an extension of this sentiment: only those responsible enough should be allowed to conceal and carry. Again, an armed responsible citizen is a great asset, while those incapable or emotionally unstable are a huge liability for our police forces. Article 3 makes it so law is upheld, regardless of a fringe group's might. If there were a sizeable communist 'militia' with suitcase nukes perhaps the other parties would think twice. |
| Date | 00:41:47, November 21, 2008 CET | From | Dranland First Party (CC) | To | Debating the Firearm Legislation |
| Message | We could support article 1 in a seperate piece of legislation, perhaps. Article 2, however, is unfavourable. Article 3 we are undecided on - we would be able to support it if the types of firearms citizens can and cannot own were defined, and provided these limits were not too severe. For example, we do not feel that it is at all unreasonable to restrict the right of individuals to own nuclear weapons, bombs and tanks, or other weapons of a similar callibre, if they somehow managed to obtain them. We do, however, believe that the individual's right to bear arms should extend to all hand-held firearms, including fully-automatic. This is simply a case of where we can draw the line - we could support article 3 if the limitations were consistent with our ideas of what an individual should and should not be allowed to carry. We will abstain from voting on this legislation, even though it will pass regardless of our vote. |
| Date | 06:54:14, November 21, 2008 CET | From | Sons of Liberty | To | Debating the Firearm Legislation |
| Message | I will continue to carry my weapons without getting any 'permit' to defend myself. And if anybody tries to take them, I will shoot them. The same goes for my militiamen; the same goes for my party. JRM |
| Date | 04:14:43, November 22, 2008 CET | From | Party | To | Debating the Firearm Legislation |
| Message | Likewise with me and my party, and our citizens militia. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 142 | ||
| no |
Total Seats: 77 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 46 |
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