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Bill: Gov.0060.2678 (Cabinet Proposal)
Details
Submitted by[?]: 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2679
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet, according to election laws: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=225528 Exclusions made according to the election law amendment: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=228827 Including amendment to the election law of 2671: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=229025 CP - 20.17% - 2.6s - 3s - 3s CUTE - 9.83% - 1.3s - 1s - 2s DP - 25.00% -3.25s - 3s -0s* DSP - 17.67% - 2.3s - 2s - 3s FWP - 11.00% - 1.4 - 1s -1s MSMP - 14.50% - 1.9 - 2s -3s TGP - 1.83% - 0.2 - 0s -1s* Notes: 1. As per legislation DP's three seats have been reallocated to three parties under the largest remainder method. 2. While TGP did not technically gain enough seats to get a seat they've been afforded one do to their being an extra seat. |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Revolutionary State Socialist Party
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Conservative Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the United Land Movement
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Free Workers Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Conservative Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Central Union of Trade and Economy
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Revolutionary State Socialist Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Central Union of Trade and Economy
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Conservative Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Revolutionary State Socialist Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:06:20, December 10, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Gov.0060.2678 (Cabinet Proposal) |
| Message | OOC: Are you sure the numbers are correct? |
| Date | 01:13:17, December 10, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Gov.0060.2678 (Cabinet Proposal) |
| Message | OOC: Based on 450 seats CP 3.496 > 3 DSP 3.062 > 3 MSMP 2.513 > 2 + 1 FWP 1.907 > 1 + 1 CUTE 1.704 > 1 + 1 TGP 0.318 > 0 |
| Date | 01:25:10, December 10, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Gov.0060.2678 (Cabinet Proposal) |
| Message | As long as FWP is okay with giving up his seat to TGP, then CP shall vote in favour. Only way for the legality of this cabinet to be valid. Until then, we shall remain abstained as we don't oppose the cabinet proposal attempt. |
| Date | 01:34:08, December 10, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Gov.0060.2678 (Cabinet Proposal) |
| Message | OOC: I based it on all 600 seats, then took DP's three seats and redistributed them. FWP only received 11% of the vote, and 11% of 13 is 1.4, less than the 1.6 needed to be rounded to 2 seats. |
| Date | 02:13:05, December 10, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Gov.0060.2678 (Cabinet Proposal) |
| Message | OOC: Ja, I understand what you did. That does not make it mathematically correct. Again, you are not calculating seats correctly. Including the number of excluded seats skews proportions. As I mentioned in one of your older cabinet bills when you did this with a smaller party, when there are only a few seats being excluded the odds of using the 600 seats skewing results is minimal. However, when you remove a lot of seats (like 25% of them which is the case now, the proportions are too inaccurate so you have to recalculate with the new total seat count. The law was written to take this into account. It just never mattered before because all the big parties were always included. |
| Date | 04:37:26, December 10, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Gov.0060.2678 (Cabinet Proposal) |
| Message | OOC: Right, well I honestly hate math, so perhaps you could provide me with the correct numbers to use? |
| Date | 04:48:54, December 10, 2008 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Gov.0060.2678 (Cabinet Proposal) |
| Message | OOC: =O Math and rules are everything! =D I gave them in an earlier message. Scroll up. The cabinet will pass if everyone agrees to your choice of who's seat goes to TGP. But it's not my call because you gave FWP one of his seats away especially when he have 0.907 of a seat versus MSMP's 0.513 of a seat. I think FWP will be reasonable anyway, you would have given him Education anyway. FWP's call. On a parallel note, make sure you are fair when you have the power to appoint. Look what happened to the Illinois governor. Arrested for corruption. =D |
| Date | 05:22:02, December 10, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Gov.0060.2678 (Cabinet Proposal) |
| Message | OOC: Ah, did'nt see that, oops. I'll make a new cabinet with the correct numbers. |
| Date | 05:34:40, December 10, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Gov.0060.2678 (Cabinet Proposal) |
| Message | OOC: Ah, did'nt see that, oops. I'll make a new cabinet with the correct numbers. |
| Date | 05:34:59, December 10, 2008 CET | From | 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō) | To | Debating the Gov.0060.2678 (Cabinet Proposal) |
| Message | That's odd.. |
| Date | 20:25:23, December 10, 2008 CET | From | Free Workers Party | To | Debating the Gov.0060.2678 (Cabinet Proposal) |
| Message | i am not happy that TGPs seat came from me instead of msmp but whatever |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 439 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 150 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 11 |
| Random fact: RP laws follow the same passing rules as in-game variable laws. Laws that are not of a constitutional nature require a simple majority "Yes" vote from active parties currently holding seats. Laws that are of a constitutional nature require a 2/3 majority "Yes" vote from active parties currently holding seats. RP laws may be abolished a simple majority vote this applies to ANY RP law. |
| Random quote: Although I understand and respect the intentions behind the gesture, this is not something that is universally understood or appreciated, and it tends to give out a negative impression of our party. ~ Anton Weinreich, General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party, pleading with his members to stop burning the national flag |