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Bill: The Human Perserverance Act of 2716

Details

Submitted by[?]: Crimson Moon Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2717

Description[?]:

Proposal: An abortion may not take place after the first trimester of pregnancy.

Reason: A fetus has developed a brain after the first trimester and can be considered a living human being.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:58:58, February 24, 2009 CET
From Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi
ToDebating the The Human Perserverance Act of 2716
MessageThe CCC opposes national regulation of this contentious issue. The question of abortion touches deeply on shared philosophical beliefs and, if prohibited, should be done so by the local community.

Date02:04:08, February 25, 2009 CET
From Crimson Moon Party
ToDebating the The Human Perserverance Act of 2716
MessageYes but when do human rights kick in. What is the definition of a human? I would consider a beating heart and a functioning brain to be quite close. I place no religiouse beliefs in this bill but simply Human rights.

Date04:50:48, February 25, 2009 CET
From New Democratic Party
ToDebating the The Human Perserverance Act of 2716
MessageAs the CMP notes, this is a highly contentious issue and we feel the decision is best left up to the individual mother who will be undergoing the abortion.

Date13:34:38, February 25, 2009 CET
From Bicky Forever - MSCC
ToDebating the The Human Perserverance Act of 2716
MessageOk, but when the mother risks to harm the 'human rights' of her child, her free choice about the abortion is limited, no?

Date13:50:08, February 25, 2009 CET
From Crimson Moon Party
ToDebating the The Human Perserverance Act of 2716
MessageWe of the Crimson Moon Party agree with the previouse statement.

Date12:12:48, February 26, 2009 CET
From New Democratic Party
ToDebating the The Human Perserverance Act of 2716
MessageThis comes back to the highly contentious question of the definition of personhood. There would be little point in arguing this since from experience I know it tends to be rather pointless. However, I consider an unborn fetus to be essentially part of the mother's body and not a seperate entity with "rights" of its own, and I think if you do try to recognise the fetus as having the full rights and legal status of a human being, you start getting into extremely sticky territory.

Date16:14:50, February 26, 2009 CET
From Crimson Moon Party
ToDebating the The Human Perserverance Act of 2716
MessageAvoiding something because it is seemingly sticky is simply cowardice. Some "sticky" situations need to be acted upon. I don't think it is a crazy law that abortion be done in the first trimester. I am not making abortion altogether illegal but simply limiting it.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 270

no
    

Total Seats: 430

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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