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Bill: Agenda 2744 : Civil Liberties
Details
Submitted by[?]: Gluaiseacht Shaoráil DhaonlathachIt
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2744
Description[?]:
| DFM's election platform. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Internet regulations.
Old value:: The government allows anyone to use the internet but the police can run investigations concerning illegal activities conducted by using internet (child abuse, illegal filesharing, ...)
Current: The government allows anyone to use the internet but the police can run investigations concerning illegal activities conducted by using internet (child abuse, illegal filesharing, ...)
Proposed: The government has no position on who may use or what is published on the internet.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The confidentiality of letters and correspondence.
Old value:: The confidentiality of letters is inviolable, but the justice dept. can violate the confidentiality of letters with grounded cause.
Current: The confidentiality of letters is inviolable, but the justice dept. can violate it in extreme situations.
Proposed: The confidentiality of letters is inviolable.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to polygamy.
Old value:: Polygamous marriages are accorded equal recognition to monogamous marriages.
Current: The government does not recognise polygamous relationships.
Proposed: The government does not recognise polygamous relationships.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 60
Current: 62
Proposed: 65
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:54:24, April 20, 2009 CET | From | Kirlawan Popular Front | To | Debating the Agenda 2744 : Civil Liberties |
| Message | An odd mix of criminalising some marriages while making it harder to detect real crime and forcing people to work longer |
| Date | 21:08:37, April 20, 2009 CET | From | Urban Party of Kirlawa | To | Debating the Agenda 2744 : Civil Liberties |
| Message | This bill restricts some of the civil liberties that the people in this nation enjoy. When it comes to civil liberties, Kirlawa is a world leader and a bill that takes away liberties makes the nation look bad. We vote 'no' and hope other parties that value civil rights and liberties do the same. |
| Date | 21:32:11, April 20, 2009 CET | From | Gluaiseacht Shaoráil DhaonlathachIt | To | Debating the Agenda 2744 : Civil Liberties |
| Message | We agree that our nation is an example to the Terra and this bill proves it. However, we do believe that polygamous relationships are a menace to women's rights. In fact, art. 3 are protecting civil liberties as well. To the article concerning the retirement age is less odd than it seems. This part of this bill increases the possibilities of our elderly to work longer and as such give them more rights. |
| Date | 21:42:54, April 20, 2009 CET | From | Kirlawan National Party (Leftists) | To | Debating the Agenda 2744 : Civil Liberties |
| Message | No, raising the retirement age means that those who want to retire at 60 will not get a state pension when they do. People are still allowed to work longer if they wish, they just have the option of getting a state pension at 60. That is what the retirement age is for. All you are doing is making it nigh on impossible for people who, out of their own liberal free will, want to retire at 60. As such, you restrict the liberty of 60-65 year olds to retire. Liberal? No, Fascist, in making people work to the point of exhaustion? Yes. |
| Date | 22:05:48, April 20, 2009 CET | From | Urban Party of Kirlawa | To | Debating the Agenda 2744 : Civil Liberties |
| Message | To the DFM, we agree that polygamous relationships are against womens rights and would vote for article 3 if it were in its own bill. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 199 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 349 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 169 |
| Random fact: "Kubrk" is a Jelbic word that has the colloquial meaning "old man" or "geezer". |
| Random quote: "A lie told often enough becomes the truth." - Vladimir Lenin |