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Bill: Re-Centralisation of necessary Items
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Democratic Union
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2776
Description[?]:
| The social democratic Union believes that certain important items must be maintained and decided upon by the central government, rather than the local governments. It is important that a certain level of unity and universal care and services is kept across the nation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion policies are established by local governments
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Charter school policy (free, privately run, publicly funded schools).
Old value:: Charter school funding, regulation, and development is left up to local governments.
Current: Only non-profit organizations may establish charter schools.
Proposed: Only non-profit organizations may establish charter schools.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The use of cannabis for medicinal purposes.
Old value:: The legality of medicinal cannabis is established by local governments.
Current: Cannabis is legal as a sedative for patients in pain.
Proposed: Cannabis is legal as a sedative for patients in pain.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The recreational drug policy.
Old value:: Recreational drug use is regulated by local governments.
Current: The use of cannabis is legal.
Proposed: Recreational drug use is forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:45:50, June 22, 2009 CET | From | Rutanian Elitist Party | To | Debating the Re-Centralisation of necessary Items |
| Message | The REP is firm believer of devolution. We are proud that Rutania is a country where the regions have extensive rights of decision making. A central government is not capable of addressing all the different issues of the different regions. We strongly oppose any kind of centralization and interventionism. Victoria von Bruckenthal, Prime-Minister |
| Date | 20:55:36, June 22, 2009 CET | From | Social Democratic Union | To | Debating the Re-Centralisation of necessary Items |
| Message | What we must do is ensure that SOME powers are made on a central basis. How confusing can it be when in one region someone is allowed to take as much drugs as he wishes, while in the next one it is a blackmarket, illegal? Why make a women in INCREDIBLE pain suffer in one region, while the next gets cannabis as she needs it? I am NOT against devolution, I simply believe some issues MUST be decided on a central basis. Gustovius DeMenne, SDU |
| Date | 21:41:34, June 22, 2009 CET | From | Rutanian Elitist Party | To | Debating the Re-Centralisation of necessary Items |
| Message | Please do not shout in the Federal Parliament. Yes some issues should be decided centrally, but these decision should establish a framework in which particular decisions are made by regional governments. The central government provides a democratic framework with rule of law, and efficient but not abusive (i.e. lacking abusive surveillance mechanisms.). In particular policy issues like the ones highlighted by the SDU the regional differences must be taken into account. These differences express the will of the people. For example the population of Delvar favour the policies of the RHP, that is anti-abortion. The situation is different in Kragusrov, dominated by the PSLM or in Ardinia dominated by us. So why should we force a unitary policy on the people when they can decide for themselves. That is why the Federal Parliament is a "framework-making" and sovereignty-defending institution where all the regions are represented equally regardless of size and population. In this way we ensure that policy decisions are made on local level and the Federal Parliament represents the entity of the Commonwealth that is the state-framework. |
| Date | 22:44:55, June 22, 2009 CET | From | Social Democratic Union | To | Debating the Re-Centralisation of necessary Items |
| Message | But as my point says indeed above, such issues must be universal. It is not right to have these different rules for different areas, we need a single rule for all, that way all is fair. |
| Date | 05:01:13, June 23, 2009 CET | From | Humanist Alliance | To | Debating the Re-Centralisation of necessary Items |
| Message | We cannot support articles 3 or 5 |
| Date | 09:26:22, June 23, 2009 CET | From | Social Democratic Union | To | Debating the Re-Centralisation of necessary Items |
| Message | Why would that be? |
| Date | 11:06:43, June 23, 2009 CET | From | Rutanian Heritage Party | To | Debating the Re-Centralisation of necessary Items |
| Message | "It is important that a certain level of unity and universal care and services is kept across the nation". This is a broad, vacuous statement. To what end is 'unity' important? The SDU is merely calling centralization imperative as a pretext for usurping local government authority, thereby concentrating and increasing federal government power. The underlying reason that the SDU wants to achieve this is clear - they want to impose their ideological will on the populace, demanding absolute uniformity to ensure that no region is left capable of deviating from this leftist orthodoxy. We oppose this legislation and all others that aim to arbitrarily concentrate federal government power. |
| Date | 18:44:54, June 23, 2009 CET | From | Social Democratic Union | To | Debating the Re-Centralisation of necessary Items |
| Message | To the humanist alliance We are willing to take out article three, concerning child benefits, but believe strongly the issue of drugs MUST be settled on a national basis, as conflicting laws among different regions could cause problems. SDU |
| Date | 00:57:55, June 24, 2009 CET | From | Popular Socialist Liberation Movement | To | Debating the Re-Centralisation of necessary Items |
| Message | We are not fully agree with article 4, but it is not so important for us. After some doubts we decided to vote for this bill. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 78 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 227 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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