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Bill: Micro-power generation

Details

Submitted by[?]: Cooperative Commonwealth Federation

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2132

Description[?]:

It shall continue to be the policy of the government of Lodamun to devolve energy generation, regulation and policy to the level closest to the people.

Considering that large power plants, whether nuclear or coal, are of a massive capital cost generally requiring government investment, and considering that these plants are usually the largest polluters, it shall be government policy never to invest in energy mega-projects. Tax incentives for renewable energy shall be continued, but the government will no longer invest directly in energy generation, which shall be a private domain.

This policy is designed to increase the number of small energy generation projects, including wind, solar and biomass projects. and to ensure that they are owned wherever possible by small business or by democractic worker cooperatives.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:46:44, October 23, 2005 CET
FromSlaytanic Wehrmacht
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageI am astonished. You suddenly turned into a libertarian?

Date22:25:32, October 23, 2005 CET
FromCooperative Commonwealth Federation
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageNo, the Greens have been eco-capitalist all along. The breakdown of the old polarization between parties means we can now give free expression to our long-standing policies. We never supported nationalized power, in fact, always local control.

((Seriously, this is pretty close to the Green Party of Canada policy book.))

Date22:28:08, October 23, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageWell, who said people can't radically change their parties?

Not like Satan and I havent done it.

Date04:16:46, October 24, 2005 CET
FromCNT/AFL
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageWhy not 'Private and public powerstations exist side-by-side'? Are we to ban local and national governments from building sources of power generation, even if they are eco-friendly?

Date04:23:28, October 24, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageSupported

Date17:17:45, October 24, 2005 CET
FromCooperative Commonwealth Federation
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
Message"Are we to ban local and national governments from building sources of power generation, even if they are eco-friendly?"

Actually, yes. Tried to explain in the bill description, but to supplement that: new energy generation should only be built if found to be profitable. The government will continue to provide subsisides for green power, but will no longer invest in its own projects, merely encouraging those which are ecologically sustainable (if run by worker coops, they will qualify for two different types of inventives, one for renewable energy and one for workers councils). If our tax shift passes, they will also gain a third type of incentive, a tax break for meeting ecological standards.

People use too much energy, and this approach will certainly reduce the supply of cheap power, driving up the price and thereby encouraging conservation of energy.

Date18:56:28, October 24, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageWe may be forced to vote against, actually.

We wont support such a scheme.

Date15:35:11, October 26, 2005 CET
FromSlaytanic Wehrmacht
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageSo subisdising green power and granting tax breaks will drive up the price for energy? I dont understand.

Date16:52:17, October 26, 2005 CET
FromCooperative Commonwealth Federation
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageSubsidizing green power will increase the percentage of green power in the total energy generated.

The scheme of removing government from ownership of energy generation plants will, in the short term, reduce the total supply of energy available. The reduction in supply will increase the price of energy, creating an incentive to use less.

Meanwhile, green power will be increasing. In the long term, we will have adequate total energy available, but most will be produced by non-polluting sources, through the operation of market mechanisms.

This is, in short, manipulation of market forces to produce the desired result through non-coercive incentives.

Date17:02:14, October 26, 2005 CET
FromSlaytanic Wehrmacht
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageWhy should the withdrawal of the government from energy production reduce the total supply? I think the previously governmental owned plants won't be destroyed but sold to private enterprises.

Date02:41:41, October 27, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageWhich will likely be able to run them more efficiently, and increase the aggregate supply of energy for the nation.

Date04:33:29, October 27, 2005 CET
FromCooperative Commonwealth Federation
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageLarge power plants tend to operate at a substantial loss. Power demand tends to increase exponentially.

Large plants are kept open, usually, with government subsidy. This also applies to privately-owned plants. So, some will close.

More important, the substantial government investment available for new power plants will not be available any more. This will reduce new plant construction in coal and nuclear, while encouraging it in green energy sectors.

Nice to see the Remnants have now seen sense and switched to supporting this plan!

Date05:06:26, October 27, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageIt all depends on the wording. Do we support subsidies and rewards for incompetance and special interests? No. Do we support the government butting out where it doesnt belong? Yes.

Date18:50:38, October 27, 2005 CET
FromCooperative Commonwealth Federation
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
Message"Tax incentives for renewable energy shall be continued, but the government will no longer invest directly in energy generation, which shall be a private domain."

Date19:10:25, October 27, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Micro-power generation
MessageTax incentives for renewable energy being in a separate proposal, yes?

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 182

no
  

Total Seats: 59

abstain
  

Total Seats: 59


Random fact: Voters have an extra appreciation for bills that actually get passed, so if you want to maximally take profit from your votes, make sure you compromise with others.

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