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Bill: Relaxing Gun Laws
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partisans And Artisans League
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2131
Description[?]:
| Guns are an integral part of Beluzian society, however, the strict gun laws imposed have turned many hardworking, honest citizens in to 'law breakers'. This damage must be rectified. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Current: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Proposed: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:26:48, October 24, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | Why not? If they get out of line we'll just shoot them, right? |
| Date | 08:51:32, October 24, 2005 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | That does not help if they have already murdered people. Unless you want a police officer on every corner, you cannot prevent crazed people from using guns to go on rampages. |
| Date | 22:14:03, October 24, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | yes but gun crime is an unfortunate side-effect of selling guns; like car crashes are an unfortunate side-effect of selling cars. The vast majority of gun users, use them for legitamite purposes. |
| Date | 21:29:24, October 25, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | you shoot the bad guys, thats how guns work. |
| Date | 23:31:55, October 25, 2005 CET | From | Militant Socialist Party | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | What exactly are the legitimate purposes of guns? They are designed solely to kill. |
| Date | 23:41:00, October 25, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | In case you guys have not noticed criminals would not licence themselves, they do not follow the law. It is only punishing law abbiding citizens to have strict controls. |
| Date | 01:04:30, October 26, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | The legitamate use of guns is to shoot bad people, keep up, will ya? |
| Date | 01:13:27, October 26, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | "I'm petey The pistol. If you squeeze me, I make bad people go away! Did you know Jesus and Moses used guns to conquer the Romans? Guns dont kill people... dangerous minorities do! " |
| Date | 01:21:36, October 26, 2005 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | "What exactly are the legitimate purposes of guns?" Hunting? Sport/competion? |
| Date | 02:04:06, October 26, 2005 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | Guns don't kill people; people with guns kill people! |
| Date | 18:23:34, October 26, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | Guns don't kill people... I DO! |
| Date | 18:38:14, October 26, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | There are a million and one legitamite reasons to have a gun. Not only the obvious sporting, personal defence, competition, defence against invasion type ones but also from a collectors point of view. You wouldn't stop a man if he decided to have a baseball bat collection would you? Baseball bats are used for sport but can also be used to kill someone - sound familiar? |
| Date | 00:39:23, October 27, 2005 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Relaxing Gun Laws |
| Message | However, with a baseball bat it is almost impossible to kill more than a few people before the police stop you. With a gun, it is easy to kill a great many people before you are stopped. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 172 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 193 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 35 |
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