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Bill: The Justice Reform Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Ogden Sinclair Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2131
Description[?]:
| The abolition of the death penalty and restrictions on police weapons |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Current: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Current: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Proposed: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons apart from specially trained firearms units.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:34:49, October 25, 2005 CET | From | Ogden Sinclair Party | To | Debating the The Justice Reform Bill |
| Message | The OSP believe that the state should fear the wrath of the people not the other way around. Plus use of national flags, especially the glorious flag of United Jakania for the purpose of selling goods most likely not even made in Jakania is an insult to the sovereignty of this great nation. |
| Date | 22:05:39, October 25, 2005 CET | From |  Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the The Justice Reform Bill |
| Message | OOC: Ugh. Again, please don't lump unrelated proposals together in one bill. Thank you. |
| Date | 22:08:00, October 25, 2005 CET | From | Ogden Sinclair Party | To | Debating the The Justice Reform Bill |
| Message | Yea okay the flag one really should be seperate but the polices power to kill and the states power to sanction murder is fairly related |
| Date | 22:21:29, October 25, 2005 CET | From | Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the The Justice Reform Bill |
| Message | OOC: *sigh* |
| Date | 22:52:49, October 25, 2005 CET | From | Jakanian Liberal Socialists | To | Debating the The Justice Reform Bill |
| Message | The JLSP applauds this bill as once again being a step forward for our nation, towards civilisation and away from state-funded hypocracy, recognising that the government has a responsability to all our citizens and that the rights to life and protection, as rights, and not just priviliges, apply to all, and not simply those that the government chooses they should apply to. (however, we do still agree the proposals should be seperated where possible. ;) even on kind-of related issues such as death penalty and police arms, parties can still possess different opinions on both) |
| Date | 23:42:45, October 25, 2005 CET | From | Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the The Justice Reform Bill |
| Message | Justice means holding people accountable for their own actions. It is said, if a man smite you on one cheek, SMASH him on the other! If a person is murdered, he cannot seek retribution for the wrongs done onto him. With all your talk of "fairness" and "morality," you seem to be more concerned with the murderer than the victim of the crime! HAIL SATAN! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 73 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 161 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 16 |
| Random fact: Moderation will not approve a Cultural Protocol request within the first 48 hours of it being requested. This is in order to give other players a chance to query the proposed changes, if they wish to do so. Moderation may be approached for advice on a proposed change, but any advice proffered should always be understood under the provisio that no final decision will be made until at least 48 hours after the request has been formally submitted for approval. |
| Random quote: "I do not believe that the United States should be bound by the same rules as the smallest African nation. Life isn't like that." - Richard Perle |