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Bill: The Child Equality Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Jakanian Liberal Socialists
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2132
Description[?]:
| Recognising that no child of United Jakania should be left without food, clothing, education or any other amenities required to ensure good health and equal future opportunities, this bill proposes that the parents of all children born to citizens of United Jakania are entitled the receipt of funds to help care for the upbringing of the child. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state does not provide child benefit.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to large families.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:07:36, October 27, 2005 CET | From | Ogden Sinclair Party | To | Debating the The Child Equality Bill |
| Message | The OSP support this bill, children are quite obviously the future of Jakania and must be lookeed after by both parent and society. |
| Date | 00:01:29, October 28, 2005 CET | From |  Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the The Child Equality Bill |
| Message | OOC: Explain to me what the government encouraging overpopulation and irresponsible parenting has to do with "equality"? |
| Date | 01:00:29, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Jakanian Liberal Socialists | To | Debating the The Child Equality Bill |
| Message | (Are you going to argue based soley on the minority? We'll let a couple children grow up without enough food or clothing because god forbid some parents may act irresponsably. Oh deary me. There's a good plan if I ever saw one) This is "equality", because your opportunity in life as a person is going to be less likely to be decided by whether you're born in a shack or a decent home. In your capitalist paradise of haves and have-nots, I'd assumed you'd appreciate that, seeing as there's hardly going to be any liberty at all for those kids born into poverty and unable to afford your privatised health services and schools.) |
| Date | 05:20:15, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the The Child Equality Bill |
| Message | The idea behind not subsidizing health care, education or other costs associated with having children is to discourage parents from having children in the first place (outside, of course, the ehtical question of why the responsible should pay for the irresponsible). Only those individuals with the means to support children should have any, instead of the poor being able to copulate all they like and the government having to pay for the end result. Also, a capitalist system should not be characterized by the "have and have-nots." While some stratification is probably unavoidable, a free market can operate without a "working class." The most contributing factor in poverty today is the excessive number of workers (labor supply). Reduce the labor pool and you increase wages. Encouraging fornication doesn't help in that regard. (And I'd appreciate it if we could both retain respectful tones. I just asked a question, there's no need to have that kind of attitude.) |
| Date | 16:03:22, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Jakanian Liberal Socialists | To | Debating the The Child Equality Bill |
| Message | (You're right, I apologise for the tone. It's just, sometimes I get the feeling that you're sticking to a narrow philosophy just so you can claim to be consistent, rather than judging the options and circumstances for each case individually) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 73 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 116 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 61 |
| Random fact: In Culturally Protected nations, special care must be taken to ensure realism is maintained when role-playing a government controlled by an ethnic and/or religious minority. If it is to be supposed that this government is supported by a majority of the population, then this should be plausibly and sufficiently role-played. The burden of proof is on the player or players role-playing such a regime to demonstrate that it is being done realistically |
| Random quote: "Non-violence is not a garment to be put on and off at will. Its seat is in the heart, and it must be an inseparable part of our very being." - Mahatma Gandhi |