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Bill: Founding of the Libertarian Militia: January 2132
Details
Submitted by[?]: International Society of Bankers
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2132
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never purchase, produce, or store biological or chemical weaponry, for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Current: The nation shall never develop, purchase or store biological or chemical weaponry.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Eminent Domain.
Old value:: The government may seize private property for vital government works.
Current: The government may seize private property for vital government works.
Proposed: The government may not seize private property.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Current: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Proposed: Health care is entirely private.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards giving aid to foreign countries.
Old value:: The government gives moderate aid to countries in need.
Current: The government gives high levels of aid to countries in need.
Proposed: The government never offers international aid.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level considered a "living wage," well above the poverty line for a full time worker.
Proposed: There is no provision for a minimum wage.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning phone services.
Old value:: The state regulates the rates providers can charge for phone service.
Current: The state regulates the rates providers can charge for phone service.
Proposed: There are no regulations on phone service.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Government regulation of pollution in industry.
Old value:: The government enforces highly restrictive industrial pollution standards.
Current: The government enforces highly restrictive industrial pollution standards.
Proposed: Industrial pollution is not regulated by the government.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on Democratic Workers' Councils.
Old value:: The government encourages the formation of Democratic Workers' Councils through subsidies and tax exemptions.
Current: The government encourages the formation of Democratic Workers' Councils through subsidies and tax exemptions.
Proposed: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:22:32, October 28, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Founding of the Libertarian Militia: January 2132 |
| Message | We support all but 4. About 4, see this bill to see the regulations: http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=6681 They are only in place to protect the rights of those involved. No pointless regulations are used. As certain party members are clones, we will oppose any attempt to remove their rights to be considered human. |
| Date | 01:09:11, October 28, 2005 CET | From | International Society of Bankers | To | Debating the Founding of the Libertarian Militia: January 2132 |
| Message | I have removed the bill, though I still support it. I understant your reasoning, but a clone that is fully human has the rights of a human and should will recieve them, if it is not human it is an animal and does not recieve those rights. |
| Date | 01:20:31, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Founding of the Libertarian Militia: January 2132 |
| Message | That's what the Human Cloning bill was designed to do. |
| Date | 05:56:30, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Lodamun Centre-Left Coalition | To | Debating the Founding of the Libertarian Militia: January 2132 |
| Message | Unconstitutional. No. |
| Date | 06:15:10, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Founding of the Libertarian Militia: January 2132 |
| Message | While a bill with more than 4 proposals does violate Spam Tastes Bad, the bill was not a constitutional bill and did not have a 2/3 majority in favor, but rather 222/450. http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=10236 For future reference LM, break big bills up into smaller bills. |
| Date | 18:42:52, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Founding of the Libertarian Militia: January 2132 |
| Message | The Greens might consider supporting some libertarian policies, but i stopepd reading at article one. We will never vote for chemical weapons, which regardless of the merits are a move twards big-government. |
| Date | 18:45:03, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Founding of the Libertarian Militia: January 2132 |
| Message | FYI -- opposition to chemical weapons are the bedrock Green policy and will result in all-out political warfare (our version of Massive Retaliation). TIC can fill you in on details. |
| Date | 22:12:33, October 28, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Founding of the Libertarian Militia: January 2132 |
| Message | GA has, in the past, urged other nations to declare war on Lodamun and to "do all within their power" to coerce and manipulate Lodamun. They have been accused and tried for treason as well, though they were aquitted. |
| Date | 23:11:43, October 29, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Founding of the Libertarian Militia: January 2132 |
| Message | If they were tried and acquitted, then the accusation you make has been investigated by the judiciary and found not to be the case. To continue the accusation could, therefore, be described as treasonous in itself. It is, at the very least, impolite and somewhat ungentlemanly. |
| Date | 23:17:22, October 29, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Founding of the Libertarian Militia: January 2132 |
| Message | We contend that the affected by corruption, bribes, and a rigged ballot. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 112 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 146 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 42 |
| Random fact: Don't put "the" as the first word in your party name, because when parties are referred to in news reports, their names are preceded with "the", e.g. the [Socialist Party] has lost. |
| Random quote: "It is obvious that the laissez-faire ideology represents the interests of big business. For decades, the right-wing has opposed welfare programs and nationalised companies, in favour of big business disguised under 'economic liberty'." - Cecilia Xu, former Gaduri politician |