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Bill: Open Door Economics Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Barletonian Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2885
Description[?]:
| Open Door Economics Act |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change International trade (this is a default in the absense of a specific free trade agreement or specific trade embargo)
Old value:: The nation allows for imports, but imposes protectionist tariffs and quotas on all imports.
Current: The nation allows for imports, but imposes "ethical" tariffs on nations with lower environmental and labour rights standards.
Proposed: The nation imposes reciprocal tariffs on imports, with no tariffs imposed on states which impose no tariffs on our exports.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:45:15, January 26, 2010 CET | From | Barletonian Party | To | Debating the Open Door Economics Act |
| Message | My fellow Kirlawans, http://classic.particracy.net/viewnews.php?newsid=245631&party=12915 According to a recent poll, 57.3% of you would prefer the government have a more free-market approach to fiscal policy. Almost all leading economists agree that foreign trade is one of the single best ways to strengthen an economy. We must focus on producing better, higher paying jobs here at home rather than erecting a wall around our country to stunt its growth. Free trade increases standard of living for all nations involved. Free trade lowers prices, raises incomes, and strengthens ties between the international community (because countries that trade with one another tend not to shoot at one another). The greatest argument for protectionism is that it "saves jobs". But the evolution of the market is inherently one of creative destruction; some markets, like those for candles and buggies, will be replaced by markets for flashlights and automobiles. Over the past generations of our history and the histories of fellow nations, we have seen or heard of the failures resulting from economic policies reliant on tariffs. There is no way to stop technological advance. And so we need to allow new industry to development from the ashes of old ones. I know this may sound grim to some, but when Kirlawan politicians promise that they will be able to save the industries of old generations, they are being disingenuous to the Kirlawan people. We can not pretend that we do not live as part of the international community; what we can do is give ourselves the best possible opportunity to thrive in the global economy. And this is why I ask the Assembly to support the ODE Act. Thank you, President Seaborn |
| Date | 03:00:42, January 26, 2010 CET | From | Kirlawan People's Justice Party | To | Debating the Open Door Economics Act |
| Message | KPJP vehemently disagree with each and every sentence in the preceding message. (Except one: the one with which we agree, is that protectionism saves jobs.) |
| Date | 05:20:04, January 26, 2010 CET | From | Urban Party of Kirlawa | To | Debating the Open Door Economics Act |
| Message | Though I and my party have no explicit opinion on foreign trade, I do feel that Kirlawa can do more to thrive in the world economy by leaving that protectionest mentality in the dust and opening up to nations. Wether or not free trade will do that is debatable. I do feel we should at least give it a try before we knock the idea down. Robert Marshall Minister of Foreign Affairs |
| Date | 09:00:23, January 26, 2010 CET | From | Kirlawa Youth and Freedom Party | To | Debating the Open Door Economics Act |
| Message | We join with the KFJP in vehemently opposing this bill. Protectionism does more than save jobs, is saves Kirlawan jobs. Protectionism promotes education and educational diversity, by ensuring that we have a wide range of industry, agriculture, banking and creative sectors we promote these sectors amongst the youth, and it is from the youth that innovation in these industries will be born. Protectionism is good for the environment, as it promotes local products, and disincentivises, the wholesale tansport of goods and services, between nations, at huge environmental expense. Removing trade management measures, would allow wholseale food and product dumping within Kirlawa, to the detriment of this nation. It is all very well for the president to refer to the opinion polls, but the job of any goverment is to lead, not merely to respond to opinion polls. |
| Date | 22:23:12, January 26, 2010 CET | From | Barletonian Party | To | Debating the Open Door Economics Act |
| Message | I do not know how parties can argue that countries have benefited from protectionist parties. I can not think of one good example of a country that benefits from protectionist policies, and yet can think on the top of my head many examples of countries where protectionism had negative effects. An economy is strongest when a country produces the goods and services that it can produce best and trades them with other countries for the goods and services that they produce best. In general, trade makes everyone better off. 1. Protectionism causes good and service prices to go up, decreasing the variety of goods/services that citizens can spend on. This decreases market capacity and therefore causes the eventual loss of jobs. 2. When we slap tariffs on foreign goods, they slap tariffs on our goods. This ends up decreasing trade. 3. Kirlawan corporations in foreign countries WILL STILL FOLLOW STRICT REGULATIONS. We would like to ask the Independent Party for their caucus' feelings about this bill. |
| Date | 14:08:08, January 27, 2010 CET | From | D'ANSELMO-Independent | To | Debating the Open Door Economics Act |
| Message | The DAI-party joins the BP and UPK in their assesment of a less restrictive trade policies as being benificial to all those involved. Yes, protectionism creates new Kirlawan jobs, but those essentially are jobs that are lost elsewhere. The idea of an economical policy only keeping own citizens into the equation strikes us as unethical. In addition to this we also agree with many of the points made by the BP in favour of opening up our borders. The best way to achieve this goal in our oppinion is by joining or founding an intergouvernemental trade agreement (OOC: think: NAFTA rather than EU) with other nations that play in the same league as Kirlawa and have a similar social system to us. We would like to propose the creation of an inter-party commitee to explore this and other possible courses of action. |
| Date | 16:00:36, January 27, 2010 CET | From | Kirlawan People's Justice Party | To | Debating the Open Door Economics Act |
| Message | > (OOC: think: NAFTA rather than EU) > with other nations that play in the same league as Kirlawa and have a similar social system to us. OOC: Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. The rest of your sentence describes the EU much better than it describes NAFTA. And OOCly I like the EU, while I detest NAFTA. |
| Date | 16:19:10, January 27, 2010 CET | From | Urban Party of Kirlawa | To | Debating the Open Door Economics Act |
| Message | I have strong reservations about Kirlawa's continuous use protectionism in our economy. That being said, I don't believe that any free trade agreement will help us either. President Kenji Tenchija |
| Date | 18:56:52, January 27, 2010 CET | From | D'ANSELMO-Independent | To | Debating the Open Door Economics Act |
| Message | OOC: What I was attempted by giving NAFTA as an example of the kind of organisation we are in favour of, was to stress the importance of the independence of the members of such an organisation. You will have to agree with me that EU-countries are more restricted freedom to act on their own on the world stage than NAFTA-countries. And BTW I agree with your oppinion on the merits of the respective organisations/agreements. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 466 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 251 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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