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Bill: Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hutorian Conservative Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2948
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The right for a person to prostitute himself or herself.
Old value:: Prostitution is legal and a recognized profession.
Current: Prostitution is legal and a recognized profession.
Proposed: There is a state monopoly on prostitution.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:25:33, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Rt Hon Michael Mancini MP, NSC Frontbencher, Madam Speaker, the CLP have told Parliament for years that they condone prostitution only because of the safety factor involved. They believe that if illegal, women would return to the streets in a far more dangerous environment. We can accept this pointer and the NSC now want to proceed by having the state operate these prostitution rings. The state can provide a safe facility for this to work effectivley and guarantees safety for all involved in the project. This is almost another Nationalisation Bill and we believe that the state benefits through this bill as well as the citizens involved in the prostitution business also. |
| Date | 15:11:50, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Madame Speaker, we actually think this is a fantastic idea. |
| Date | 15:25:17, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Rt Hon Michael Mancini MP, NSC Frontbencher, Madam Speaker, may we firstly congratulate Rev. Buchannan on his winning of the Labour leadership. Hopefully he is a reasonable man, who will follow in the footsteps of Mr Yitzhek when it comes to NSC/Labour Bill agreements. We just have one question for Mr Buchannan about his leadership, well more to Labour MP's in how can you - the Labour MP's support this man as your leader after what 8 of you backed him in your leadership contest? Surely the man doesnt have the backing of his own parliamentary colleagues. Nevertheless Madam Speaker, we hope that he can continue the legislative programme that the NSC and Labour have in common and we hope he can radically reform Hutorian politics in the socialist ideal. |
| Date | 16:26:10, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Bahiyya Yusra, MP, Shadow Finance Minister Madame Speaker, The Labour Party is dedicated to its people, the common members, and is built on them, they are our very backbone, and they have decided that Rev. Buchanan should be leader of this party, and we not only respect their views, we are governed by their views, this is the way it has always been. The common man has elected Rev. Buchanan as our leader, and we submit to that. Rev. Buchanan is a wonderful, powerful and compassionate man, and the party backs him completely. |
| Date | 16:31:59, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Rev. John Buchanan MP, Leader Of the Opposition Madame Speaker, I thank the honorable gentleman for welcoming me into this wonderful position, and promise to act for the progression not only of my party, but for the whole of the Kingdom of Hutori. All our MP's are initially nominated by the party members, and the party members have spoken to have me elected, and we, as a unified and collective party, will follow these views. I wish to thank my predeccesor Uzziel Yitzhak, for leading this party during hard times, and leading this country during a disputed time also. I would also like to publically mourn our founder the late Georges Kesrouani, who created this wonderful party out of the ashes of the CNSM, and pray that I will lead this party into victory. Thank You. |
| Date | 16:40:32, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Rt Hon Michael Mancini MP, NSC Frontbencher, Madam Speaker, we thank the gentleman for clearing that issue up. We still maintain we do have a lot of similarities with Labour and if Mr Buchanan would consider re-establishing our coalition government at any point in the future, the NSC's doors will always be open to such an opportunity. Now, the issue at hand Madam Speaker, this Act is another point of business that the state should have an influence in, not only for the financial turnover this bill would provide, but also the safety of the women it involves. |
| Date | 20:51:11, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, are the socialists really going to make the government the only pimp in Hutori? What a ridiculous law this is. Apart from the obvious problems of policing this so-called monopoly, how exactly will it be implemented? Madam Speaker, the CLP have always said that prostitution should never be criminalised, and we support the right of each individual to do as they please with their body. But in no way have we ever suggested that prostitution should be advocated and encouraged by the state - what a disgusting policy, Madam Speaker. |
| Date | 20:54:46, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Rt Hon Michael Mancini MP, NSC Frontbencher, Madam Speaker, is there no end to CLP hypocricy? They say they want to protect the individual when it comes to prostitution and here they are voting against this which ensures the safety of all involved. They vote against our Right to Strike Act and they claim to be for civil liberties? I mean come on make your minds up whether you are for or against these issues because all the CLP do is critisise NSC/Labour stances - at least our parties hold a stance on all issues, unlike this CLP who cannot decide what they want to do next! |
| Date | 21:01:43, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, what idiotic nonsense. Would the socialists really expect a libertarian party to vote for a policy that would see yet another state monopoly introduced? Do you really think that we would support intruding in the free market, regulating yet further? Madam Speaker, the gentleman claims to be an intellectual and yet he fails to grasp the most basic aspects of our ideology. Madam Speaker, what nonsense! I am truly astounded that he can stand at the dispatch box and believe what he is actually saying. I thought he was more intelligent than the brainless thugs sitting behind him. |
| Date | 21:05:47, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Oh Good one, seems the CLP continually try to score political points, Mr Speaker, my party do not claim to be intellectuals or above anyone else in this House. What we are, is a down to earth workers party. We do not claim to be some sort of upper class know it all, like previous CLP administrations. |
| Date | 21:11:34, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, Mr Mancini was the foremost thinker of the FFF before he jumped a sinking ship to join the HNP. So we are not wrong in saying that he is an intellectual. Madam Speaker, everywhere the NSC look, all they see is class. Despite the fact that we have told them many times, they refuse to accept that the majority of CLP MPs and the majority of former CLP leaders have been from the working classes. They just cannot accept that not all working people want socialism. They will never win over hearts and minds unless they accept that fact! Unfortunately for them, the workers of the world will not unite behind socialism. Madam Speaker, yet again, however, the NSC have failed to address the issue. We have explained how we could never support this bill, and they refuse to listen. Instead, they do what they accuse us of, and just attack, attack, attack. |
| Date | 21:17:40, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Rt Hon Michael Mancini MP, NSC Frontbencher, Madam Speaker, perhaps we would listen to the CLP if we needed their support to get this Bill passed. Seems they are bitter at being left out by the NSC and Labour, who are able to pass reform after reform with no CLP input. We dont really care they dont want this Act - and they can cry all they like. This Bill as it stands will pass through the House without CLP support and they are simply irrelevant to this Act. |
| Date | 21:22:51, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the NSC do not just disrespect the CLP, they disrespect this Parliament and portions of the electorate. We could not care less whether they want to address our arguments or not. But unfortunately for them, this is a democracy and opposition is an important part of democracy. Whether they like it or not, not everybody in this country agree with their policies. It is therefore the role of other political parties to raise the concerns of those people that disagree, and any party that was committed to democracy would answer them. For, as the NSC know, no one party will ever be in government permanently. And when they return to opposition, they should expect the government to answer and debate their policies. They would have been the first to complain if a CLP government had ever simply dismissed them as they just have. What a great insult to this chamber Madam Speaker. |
| Date | 21:31:01, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Hutorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Rt Hon Michael Mancini MP, NSC Frontbencher, Madam Speaker, seems i have touched a nerve with the CLP. Perhaps its my apparant intellect shining through. I was the policy maker of the FFF, but i play a smaller role within the NSC. I will retract my statement about them being "irrelevant" and whilst we may not really take their input into account, it will not fall on deaf ears. The NSC know we will return to opposition one day - whilst we hope that day is years away. Anyways the role of opposition shouldn't be undermined and the CLP can take this withdrawl. Anyways Madam Speaker, this Act will pass the House and become law. We hope the CLP can accept this basic fact. |
| Date | 21:56:46, June 01, 2010 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Prostitution Monopoly Act of 2947 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, of course the gentleman touched a nerve - he was attacking some of the basic facts of democracy. Given his party's illustrious past, he can imagine our concern that the party was beginning to revert to its old ways. Madam Speaker, we thank them for their retraction and hope they can now begin properly debating issues. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 288 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 103 | ||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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