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Bill: Official Religion Act of 2138
Details
Submitted by[?]: Parti Monarchiste Catholique
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2141
Description[?]:
| Honourable Colleagues, Since its founding, the people of the Kingdom of Rildanor have been a devoutly Catholic people. For a time, our great nation was even ruled by a theocratic form of government. Our great flag still carries the Cross of Chirst. It is time that the government recognize the beloved religion of the people. Colleagues, having an official religion does not mean an end to religious freedom or that all must belong to a state Church. For our model for establishing an offical religion, we look to the United Kingdom. While that respected nation has an official religion, it does not require all of its citizens to be a member of that religion, nor does it infringe upon the freedom of religion of non-Christian citizens that reside within its borders. In this way it is able to preserve and recognize its culture and history without doing violence to the rights of its minority peoples. Be it so enacted: 1) That the official religion of the Kingdom of Rildanor be Catholicism. 2) That no citizen, resident, or foreign visitor to the Kingdom of Rildanor be forced or required to join the Catholic Church. 3) That non-Catholic citizens, reisdents, and foreign vistors to the Kingdom of Rildanor retain their right to practice whatever religion they wish, or to practice none at all. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:30:56, November 11, 2005 CET | From | Beach Party | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | The only reason the flag still has the cross is because I haven't been bothered to try and make a new one. |
| Date | 08:05:07, November 11, 2005 CET | From | Union for the Rights of Christian Women | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | Yea right! Come on BP, you don't have a snowball chance in hell to take the cross of the flag and you know it. We support this fine bill but we prefer that Catholicism be replaced with Christianity,but it's only a suggestion. |
| Date | 14:15:29, November 11, 2005 CET | From | Beach Party | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | I'm pretty sure if I wanted to I could. |
| Date | 16:31:00, November 11, 2005 CET | From | Union for the Rights of Christian Women | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | No comment. |
| Date | 23:13:22, November 11, 2005 CET | From |  Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | Colleagues, I. A new flag would be an option but not something I desire to enforce upon the legislature, we do not have the 'most beautiful' flag of Terra however it does have a certain history behind it. II. There can be a new flag aside a Catholic/Christian installed national religion. III. I have been working on some flags - http://users.skynet.be/fa032160/rildanor.htm - as you can see, the different flags contain the 'Rildanor Royal Lion' which refers to our Monarchy. Let me know what you think about it. |
| Date | 23:35:52, November 11, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Coalition | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | If you make a side of the third one red then it would be perfect. |
| Date | 10:55:18, November 12, 2005 CET | From | Union for the Rights of Christian Women | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | Well the reason I support the flag is because it is mostly the flag of my real life country and since 5-6 parties were of the same ethnicity as me that didn't bother anyone. But if the parties of this country want to change the flag then we will not vote against it. Also regarding the monarchy, the BP said that we have no king, can someone explain this? As far as the new flags are concerned, we are a narrow minded party and would like to see a cross on the future flag of Rildanor. |
| Date | 11:37:53, November 12, 2005 CET | From | Union for the Rights of Christian Women | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | BTW we always thought the Christianity, Islam are religions and that Catholicism/Ortodoxism are parts of Christianity, we call them cults, but I doubt that is the right translation in English. |
| Date | 13:20:25, November 12, 2005 CET | From | Proletariat Coalition | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | I think 'sects' is the word your looking for there but I'm probably wrong. |
| Date | 18:40:09, November 12, 2005 CET | From | Parti Monarchiste Catholique | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | OOC: Cult is technically correct, because a cult is just a group with common beliefs. However, that word has a negative connotation (at least in the USA) because it is usually associated with wacko religious sects and not with mainstream religions. IC: As regards the flag, we actually like the royal lion flags. Is there any way to incorporate even a small cross on the flags? |
| Date | 15:02:46, November 13, 2005 CET | From | Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | Colleagues of the CMP, "Is there any way to incorporate even a small cross on the flags?" I actually tried to do that but its not all that simple :-) |
| Date | 20:20:52, November 13, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party of Rildanor | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | I'm against declaring the country as Catholic/Christian/any relgion at all. It draws attention to us, and can put us at odds with some countries just because of our religion. |
| Date | 07:22:42, November 14, 2005 CET | From | Union for the Rights of Christian Women | To | Debating the Official Religion Act of 2138 |
| Message | It can put us at odds with some countries because we have a democracy, what will we do ? Now really, we govern for the people of Rildanor not for anyone else. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 100 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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