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Bill: Mandatory Vaccination Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3081
Description[?]:
| To protect children against there parents silly ideology and religions. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on vaccinations.
Old value:: The government mandates vaccination for all children, but parents may opt out for religious or ideological reasons.
Current: The government mandates vaccination for all children.
Proposed: The government mandates vaccination for all children.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:43:42, February 17, 2011 CET | From |  Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | We would prefer if there was still an opt-out option. |
| Date | 00:24:51, February 18, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | So children can die of easily preventable things? Seriously? |
| Date | 01:31:47, February 18, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | The parents should do that. The government should have no role. |
| Date | 02:29:48, February 18, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | So the parents should have the right to allow there children to possibly get infected with preventable shit? We say no, and condemn any party that says they should. |
| Date | 03:53:23, February 18, 2011 CET | From | Dark Templar (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | We agree with this 100%. |
| Date | 12:51:58, February 18, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | So the government must decide everything for the parents? Why don't we decide where they live, it'd be safer than were they would be living. And which school do they go to, and what they should be when they grow up. The parents should be responsible for the child. |
| Date | 16:21:04, February 18, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | Parents should not have the right to potentially make a life or death choice. |
| Date | 18:59:55, February 18, 2011 CET | From | Art & Labour | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | So why is abortion legal? |
| Date | 19:15:56, February 18, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | Indeed. Euthanasia is also legal in Ikradon. Perhaps you should get on stamping those out too, CFP. |
| Date | 20:58:58, February 18, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | A fetus has no concesness and Euthanasia isn't a choice of the parent, but the patent. |
| Date | 23:56:28, February 18, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | An adult human being doesn't have consciousness either. We're all computing machines. Just ones made of meat and not electronics. |
| Date | 02:49:06, February 19, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | Humans do have consciousness. |
| Date | 07:37:03, February 19, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | That's some good evidence there, CFP.... It's especially hard to prove something that varies greatly in definition. |
| Date | 14:53:53, February 19, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience |
| Date | 18:41:47, February 19, 2011 CET | From | Art & Labour | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | CFP: But abortion is where the parents of an as yet unborn child decide whether it lives or not. Irrespective of whether the foetus posesses consciousness, its a decision made by the parent/s that directly determines life or death. |
| Date | 19:24:09, February 19, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | Parents should not have the right to potentially make a life or death choice of a conscious being. |
| Date | 02:58:38, February 20, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | Okay, CFP, so you've personally chosen a definition: ""sentience" can refer to the ability of any entity to have subjective perceptual experiences" Now prove that. Good luck. |
| Date | 15:57:32, February 20, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | Do you have subjective perceptual experiences in your life? |
| Date | 20:28:45, February 20, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | Can you prove that they actually happen? To anyone else? If you can, you need to write down how.... and send it in to the Journal of Consciousness Studies and reap many accolades for being the first person to disprove Solipsism. There is a reason it hasn't ever been done.... it is quite the nagging problem to prove anything about the internal representational qualities of brains. |
| Date | 21:01:34, February 20, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | No, but its quite obvious that humans are sentient beings. |
| Date | 07:12:58, February 21, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | Well, feel free to have that delusion in your own brain.... but just know that you have no tangible evidence to corroborate that argument. |
| Date | 15:06:41, February 24, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Mandatory Vaccination Act |
| Message | So really, we are all in the mind of all of us. Yeah, and I thought religious wackos were, well, wackos. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 231 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 404 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 115 |
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