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Bill: Encyclopaedia Ikradonia
Details
Submitted by[?]: Union Socialism Alliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3448
Description[?]:
| History culture and what-not http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Ikradon http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ichredone http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Mekarali http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Sudsiedlung http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Geography_of_Ikradon Also, our National Forum! http://ikradon.phpbbhosts.co.uk/index.php Aim of this bill is to try to fix and better Ikradon's information, not only on our wiki, but it could be useful to have a historical background, with cultures, ethnicities, languages and such. Many is unknown, but we kind of can create things, and with the help of older bills and our own legislative history, we can find our way. The FFP is certainly of importance for our history, as they've been here almost as long as Ikradon self! And we can all put our expertise, and experience, in bettering Ikradon's information and history. Also, I've seen IMC making some nifty changes on the page, including the maps ;) so we can work that out also. RELIGION Ikradon has a very low percentage of religious people and groups. Part of that is no-doubt attributed to infamous periods of time where religion was banned by the Dark Templar party. Outraged by this dark spot on Ikradon's history, some civil rights groups, and many political organisations, spoke out and condemned those who supported it. The effect it has had is not known, though, and is not thought to be of major factor on today's composition of religion in Ikradon. Based on the 3097 census, Atheists/Agnostics: 42% Non-Religious faithfuls : 30% Buddhists: 6% Christians: 6% DT Cultists: 5% Muslims: 4% Jews: 4% Hindus: 2% MAP. I have created a political map several years (IC) and more recently IMC has created a geographical map and a weather map. I'll try to incorporate them into one, and modernise the map and such. The names and such, as well as placing are all up for debate. Maps: http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/UniSocAll/Map/Ikradon-satellite.png http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/UniSocAll/Map/Ikradon-political.png List of Districts http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc430/UniSocAll/Map/CitiesandDistricts.png HISTORY This'd be a large section, as we have many years to cover. 2034-FFP, well we could use the bills and posts to try to figure out that period FFP-DT, Well this era we can rely on the bills and posts, but we definitely would rely on the info of FFP (the ones he can remember, at least) DT/FFP era - USA, this short period seems to have had major influences on the Ikradon that the rest of us got ourselves into. After that, the CFP and RMS came shortly thereafter, as did the SLD/AL and later the SCI. As for other influences from other parties, the only stable party to have come during this period was the MMP. Also, pre-2034 history should also be discussed. We could have different histories for the provinces, when they joined Ikradon etc. _____________________________________________________________________________________ I'm trying to create storylines here, so help me, or tell me, where I'm wrong, or what makes sense, or what I should or shouldn't do: Alkon and Mekarali has the colours of the original Ikradon flag (storyline: "they were the Federated Republic of the Ikran pre-2034") and Ghorva and Gildark has a star which they is related (storyline: "they were the Republic of Central Artania), and Dazlon was the Independent Sovereign Republic of Dazlon. DAZLON In 2019, ISR Dazlon's then-socialist regime decided to join the FR Ikran, and create the Federal Republic of Ikradon Bay. The nationalist and conservative faction didn't support this move, and declared Independence from the Irtoriad-based regime. The Independent State of Western Dazlon was formed. The Irtoriad-regime didn't accept the declaration, and gave them an ultimatum to stop this treachery. The Mordon-based regime decided to plunder and conquer towns near Irtoriad, as an answer to the ultimatum. Shortly after Northern Irtovloir was plundered and conquered by the separatists, Irtoriad-regime declared war. The Dazlon Civil War ended just 3 months later, largely because FR Ikran decided to intervene and help the Irtoriad-based regime from the start. On the 1st of January, 2020, the Federal Republics of Ikradon Bay was formed. The Capital was the Federated City of Ikradon Bay, roughly were Magrathea and Irtoriad stands today. GHORVA & GILDARK After the creation of the FR Ikradon Bay, The Republic of Central Artania, who already had a weak economy, lost they're economic ally that was Dazlon. An important ally, Dazlon and Central Artania had a pact which traded agriculture for fisheries and the pact also got rid of tariffs between trades. Central Artania used Dazlon's port almost exclusively for imports, even more than they're port on Lake Ikran. When the nationalist-conservative faction lost in Dazlon, the nationalist-conservative faction in Central Artania feared that they might lose power. Protests began, urging the regime to either join Ikradon Bay, or create negotiate an economic pact with them. The dissenting voices grew larger, especially in the southern region of Gildark, which felt that the northern-based regime had not treated them fairly, compared with the northern region of Ghorva. After 8 months of protest in 2020 and 2021, a great amount opposition factions and parties decided to split up Gildark from the republic on March 16, and annex it to Ikradon Bay. Ghorva-based regime was outraged, but ultimately lost power, when the higher ranks of government fled to Hutori, and the regime decided to not to try to go to war with Ikradon Bay. Gildark was annexed on March 18 2022. One month later, on April 24, the regime ultimately fell, and Ghorva was admitted to Ikradon Bay on week later on 1 of June 2022. FEDERATION The Federation of Ikradoni Republics was also formally created on that day. Each of the 4 sovereign republic (Alkon, Mekarali, Dazlon, and Central Artania, who was still considered united) had a great amount of autonomy, but that also caused many problems, as their was still many dissenting voices, specially in Ghorva, that was against this federal union. In 2028, to try to stop violent protesters and a loud voices both in Ghorva and Gildark, the Federal Government decided to officially split Gildark from Ghorva, adding a 4th republic. Gildark has been since 2022 a de-facto sovereign region, separated from Ghorva, but officially still fell under the Ghorvan-based republican government. The move was done so to give Gildark officially the status of a sovereign republic in the federation, separating them from Ghorva, and to try to cripple the anti-federation movement in Ghorva, making it the smallest republic, and the least populated. And with Gildark a sovereign republic, most of the money usually allocated to Ghrova, would now be allocated directly to Gildark. It wasn't until the 2030, when Wilhuff Tarkin was elected Federal Executive, chairman of the board that included him and the 10 Republican Executive Representatives of each republic, that a true nation of Ikradon was being discussed. After 4 years, the dream, or nightmare for some, was finally realized. The Democratic Republic of Ikradon was established on the 2nd of August 2034, with President Wilhuff Tarkin as it's first President. Of course it misses the classical history of all three republics and/or five regions, but I'm working on those :P CULTURE Ikradon's longstanding policy of open-immigration has made Ikradon as culturally-diverse as any other country in Terra. The multi-cultural paradise of Ikradon has made Ikradonians lose being an absolute majority, but the tolerance shown by the people of Ikradon has made it one of the most tolerant and immigrant-friendly nation of Terra. Ikradonian: 39.06% - Ichredone: 9.96% - Ikran: 6.13% - Radoni: 6.07% - Alkonia: 4.71% - Dadzlony: 4.70% - Ghorovans: 4.30% - Gildartanians 4.12% - Lhartanians: 0.26% - Kundr: 0.21% Ikradonian-neighbours 21.94% - Dundorfians: 9.66% - Luthorians: 4.20% - Kundratians: 4.12% - Rutanians: 3.96% Rest of Artania 15.44% - Beluzian: 3.18% - Hobrazian: 2.29% - Alorian: 2.22% - Dorvikian: 2.14% - Kirlawan: 1.92% - Darnussian: 1.81% - Endralonian: 1.59% - Malivian: 0.85% Rest of Terra 12.56% - Macon: 4.83% - Majatran: 4.12% - Keris: 3.18% - Seleya: 0.26% - Dovani: 0.12% - Squibble: 0.04% - Vascania: 0.01% LANGUAGE This is another question mark, as the current wiki states it to be Dutch, but I think I'm the only one even able to speak Dutch respectably. Having said that, I believe we should decide on our language's name, some of the language's words and maybe even from where it comes from. For example, Language : Ikradoni (Ichreidöhne) Germanic-based language. Official languages: Ichredone, Ikran, Radoni Ikran Mikrali = Great/Big mouth-end of water (Delta -> Mekarali) Mikrane = Great/Big route/way of water (River -> Ikran River) Iradnia = High Lands of No Water (Mountains -> Radoni Mountains) Midazolne = Great/Big route/way area (Canyon -> Dazlon) Alkonia = Land of Plant (forests/fields -> Alkon) Ghorovra = River near the Ghorov-people (land/area -> Ghorva) Gildalk = plants of the Gild-people (land/area -> Gildark) Ikrane-Radonia = Land of mountains and rivers Radoni Mkakraneli = Grand end/mouth of water way/route (Delta -> Mekarali) Doykrane = Empty space way/route of water (river -> Ikran river) Iradonia = High Lands empty/out of water (mountains -> Radoni mountains) Dadzlony = Space of passage/travel (canyon -> Dazlon) Alkny = Space of plants (forests/fields -> Alkon) Ghorovakria = wet lands of the Ghorovan-people (land/area -> Ghorva) Gildartaniany = space of the Gildartanian-people (land/area -> Gildark) Ykran-Radony = Land of mountains and rivers |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:02:48, March 27, 2011 CET | From | Ikradon Megacorporation | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | On the culture question, I'm not sure how long the open borders policy/free trade policy has been in operation, but I think (and would quite like) Ikradon to be a multi-cultural nation with ethnic diversity. I don't imagine that religious diversity is going to be very easy given the state atheist bills. knowing a bit more about the history of Ikradon would be very interesting, but I have no idea (even for my own wiki page) how to handle the amount of information. being selective is probably best a collective decision, rather than an individual one. p.s. The maps were purely improvised from a geogrphical map of artania and ikradon. |
| Date | 20:42:02, March 27, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Quite a long time. Well in terms of religion, Id say due to the state atheism, and the strong secularism opinion, the vast majority should be atheists/agnostics. |
| Date | 20:52:17, March 27, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | It'd be possible to have people secretly practice religion. It'd be plausible that many of them left the country. Albeit they might have come back when state atheism was overturned. Also, we could just have estimates, as Ikradon doesn't require people to state what race or religion they are. Wait, scratch that, the census would ask that, wouldn't they. |
| Date | 21:54:46, March 27, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | But the overall opinion of the people is massively secular which shows a massively non-religious population. |
| Date | 23:34:05, March 27, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | I thought secular meant separation of church and state. It doesn't necessarily means atheism. Probably there is a percentage of those secular people who are atheists, but I don't think all of them are. |
| Date | 00:31:38, March 28, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Of course, but religious people dont tend to be secular, atheists tend to be secular and state atheist for obvious reasons. |
| Date | 00:32:21, March 28, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Btw, in this game extreme secularism means state atheism, and ALOT of the people fit in the last 3 catagorys in the secular opinion polls. |
| Date | 15:07:47, March 28, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Ah yes, you're right. As it stands, 45% are moderate secular or more, 32% are in the centre, and 22% are moderate religious or more. So I guess that'd be an acceptable make-up of Ikradon? 45% Atheist, 32% Agnostics 22% Theists? |
| Date | 16:35:45, March 28, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Yah. |
| Date | 17:35:39, March 28, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | It should be mentioned that Religious schools are banned and forcing family to go to church is considered indoctrination. |
| Date | 21:14:03, March 28, 2011 CET | From | Lyika ati Isọdọtun | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | We feel that the CFP's attempt to equate "secularism" with "atheism" is misplaced. Many FFP members are quite devout, but they are also committed to our program of secular governance. |
| Date | 21:20:03, March 28, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | The GAME does, the game considers a total ban on religion secularism, and the opposite for a manadated religion. |
| Date | 18:37:39, March 29, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Usually secularism means separation of state and church, but the game simply has Issue: Religion, Secular vs Fanatical. |
| Date | 00:17:28, March 31, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | OOC: So I was visiting our old national forum today, and I saw that it has been spammed to such an extent, that really, I am sad how the forum now is. Some people in this world are sad, and some companies (Google with their ad-bots) are really annoying. I think we may be able to clean it up and use it again. I I where a moderator/admin/whatever, I could start cleaning up and stuff. Hopefully this time we can use it. And as for spams, we could always put a limit? or would have to get approved? Just ideas. |
| Date | 04:23:07, April 01, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | So today I had a few hours off that I probably should have used for sleeping, but in the stead, I started overhauling Ikradon's wiki, especially the history section. It'd be great if everyone (or anyone, really) could tell me what they think. And hey, don't be afraid to add or remove stuff, or fix my spelling errors ( SCI ;)), as my excuse would be 'it was 3 am' (that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Also, I'm no native speaker of the language of England) |
| Date | 22:49:12, April 01, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Also made some maps. Feedback would be appreciated :) preferably negative ones. |
| Date | 23:44:30, April 01, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Err, it all gives 404. |
| Date | 01:47:23, April 02, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | I concur with my comrade here. 404'd all the way. |
| Date | 12:56:51, April 02, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Sorry 'bout that, should be able to see them now. |
| Date | 13:43:10, April 02, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | It seems to me (just a conjecture) that the cities of Marxtricht, Goedhoek, and Hassin would have melded slightly. As well as Magrathea and Irtoriad. |
| Date | 15:25:06, April 02, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | I thought about that too, but I decided to mark up where the city limits ended. They would most certainly be a "greater metropolitan area" I guess. But if it would seem better, I could meld them together :P |
| Date | 17:14:08, April 02, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | How about this for religion? Atheists/Agnostics: 42% Non-Religious: 30% DT Cultists: 5% Christians: 9% Muslims: 5% Jews: 5% Hindus: 2% Buddhists: 1% |
| Date | 18:01:17, April 02, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Whats the difference between the Atheist/Agnostics and non-religious? Also, lol at DT Cultists! |
| Date | 18:55:01, April 02, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | They believe in a god, but dont follow a religion. |
| Date | 19:12:14, April 02, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Hmm haven't thought about it that way. Fair enough, added. |
| Date | 00:10:36, April 03, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Also, as Buddhism is technically an atheistic worldview, I would find it more plausible that a secular society would have a larger percentage of buddhists. Just my .02. |
| Date | 11:30:01, April 03, 2011 CET | From | Ikradon Megacorporation | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Would it be an idea to have a new national forum? |
| Date | 20:40:47, April 03, 2011 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Party of Ikradon (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Atheists/Agnostics: 42% Non-Religious faithfuls : 30% Buddhists: 6% Christians: 6% DT Cultists: 5% Muslims: 4% Jews: 4% Hindus: 2% Better? |
| Date | 22:25:40, April 03, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | still lol at DT cultists! Also, the national forum, I was hoping we'd clean up the old one, as it does have some stuff in it, like party HQ and some interesting statistic. |
| Date | 22:27:18, April 03, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | I could get on board with that balance.... |
| Date | 03:15:39, April 05, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Balance added. Also, I've worked on the history session of Ikradon, and researching (read: reading for 5 minutes) the Dundorf page, I've came up with a coherent history for both our nation. I've added both the history of Mekarali and the history of the old Kingdome of Ichredone. You can read it if it interests anybody (sorry for the grammar and spelling, English isn't my first language). The short-story goes like this: Settlers settled present-day Magrathea, split up, one tribe (Radoni) went up and settled the mountains (radoni mountains) and the other (Ikran) settled the river (Ikran river). Eventually the two side warred against each other, and a third tribe from the north (Ichredonefian) attacked them both and formed the Kingdom. Afterwards, the kingdom would shrink and grow, fending off tribes like the Ghorovans, Gildartanians, Alkonia (split from Ikran), Dadzlony (split from Radoni), Kundr (Kundrati-tribe) Lhartanians (Luthori-tribe) and of course, Ikran and Radoni. Conquered entire present-day Ikradon in 609 AD, but was colonialised/captured by Dundorf in 801 AD. (that's all I got) Also, feel free to work on it, or anything else, as I may not be so active in the coming two-weeks (tests, man) |
| Date | 03:43:47, April 05, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Also, forget to add, I'm kinda creating a language (read: a few keywords with meaning) for the Ikran and Radoni, and I'm basing the Ichredone of of Dutch/Netherlands, partly because it's related to Dundorf/German, partly because it was written in the wiki, and partly because Dutch is my second language (or third behind English) :P I added that to the wiki too (I think) but it's a long read (trust me..) and thus maybe if you guys see it here, you might be able to give feedback: see description!! |
| Date | 03:45:24, April 05, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | GAR, forgot something else, I've also created maps for the different periods and such, and how Ikradon looked like, hopefully I can have them up by tomorrow. Yes, that's it, for today, I think. Off to bed now, or the coffee machine.. |
| Date | 16:18:54, April 06, 2011 CET | From | Communist Freedom Party (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Ill still help. :) |
| Date | 19:02:14, April 06, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Much appreciated :) |
| Date | 03:18:28, April 13, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Made some additions, and also updated the Mekarali and the Kingdom page. It has some pictures in it :P so you might even read some of the stuff there! |
| Date | 01:49:24, April 20, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | OOC: So I was working on the wiki and stuff today, when I came upon the old flags of Ikradon. After some research, I tallied up the amount of flags that Ikradon officially had, and ended up with 4. I do not know if that is accurate yet, as I will continue searching most probably. Unless, say, the FFP, DT or any other parties can confirm that we've had only 4 flags, the original diagonal stripes one, the communist hammer-sickle-star, and the current penguin one. Oh, and this one: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z208/crv24/SOULwar.jpg I am glad that I came AFTER that flag was repealed.... |
| Date | 02:01:26, April 20, 2011 CET | From | Union Socialism Alliance | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | OOC: Found this one too.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/lemonlover/ikradonflag2.png Ah Ikradon sure did have some artists in the past. |
| Date | 00:12:31, October 19, 2011 CET | From | Sindicato Obrero Libre | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | OOC: Greetings, it is me, USA. I've returned to particracy recently, having joined an abandoned nation (as Ikradon was, and still is full). Having said that, I still do keep tabs on Ikradon and such. I would like to ask if it were to be okay if I continued work on the Ikradoni wiki. That is all, for now. Love, Cheers and Socialism, USA |
| Date | 05:27:28, October 19, 2011 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | If you resurrect your old Ikradon party, you can become the 9th member in the nation. I've seen nations that were full and then have a reactivated party come back and they had 9 for a while. Otherwise, welcome. And indeed, I'm all for continuing work on Ikradonian history. |
| Date | 17:53:21, October 19, 2011 CET | From | Sindicato Obrero Libre | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | That's an interesting thought! I'll think about it, though it won't be fair to leave the country so soon after joining it. And yes, I've left many things unfinished, so I'll get on working on it. |
| Date | 01:19:44, March 01, 2013 CET | From | Dark Templar (LL) | To | Debating the Encyclopaedia Ikradonia |
| Message | Never saw the DT cultists before. I'd have to object to DT has a religion as we have stated that "communism is our religion". I would however consider us to be our own style of communism but w/e doesn't matter anymore now that the USA is long long gone :P |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 97 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 638 |
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