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Bill: Strikes For Anyone Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Labour Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3102
Description[?]:
| Do you we really need to get a trades union to have a majority ballot before striking? If someone wants to strike they should be allowed and nothing should stop them |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Trade union strike ballots.
Old value:: Trade unions must by law hold a ballot of all members before going on strike, majority approval of those that vote is needed from its members.
Current: Trade unions must by law hold a ballot of all members before going on strike, a majority of all members, regardless of if they vote or not must approve the strike action.
Proposed: Trade unions are not required by law to hold a ballot before striking.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:59:53, April 02, 2011 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the Strikes For Anyone Act |
| Message | Don't be in a trade union then. |
| Date | 01:14:11, April 02, 2011 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Strikes For Anyone Act |
| Message | What the hell? If you are not in a trades union then you are a free target for employers to do what they want to you and sack you unfairly. The trades union are the representative of the workers in the workforce and the Labour Party is the representative of the trades union and the workers in Parliament! |
| Date | 16:28:17, April 02, 2011 CET | From | Revolutionary Worker's Party | To | Debating the Strikes For Anyone Act |
| Message | We agree completely with the Labour Party. Oh People's Party, what a sad comment. Sometimes I don't understand how this kind of people are representing anyone. |
| Date | 17:43:49, April 02, 2011 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the Strikes For Anyone Act |
| Message | Well from considering the amount of seats we have I believe we are repersenting a good amount. |
| Date | 04:27:15, April 03, 2011 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Strikes For Anyone Act |
| Message | People's Party your policies are as clear as mud. How can you say that you stick up for the "people" when you don't even support the trades union movement? The unions are the backbone of our society and if that backbone snaps or even fractures itself, then Aloria snaps with it. the Labour Party was formed by the workers and union members and I am pretty sure that the same can also be said for the Revolutionary Worker's Party |
| Date | 08:05:02, April 03, 2011 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the Strikes For Anyone Act |
| Message | Ok again you haven't set me straight or anything like that, so I don't know why you think you have. You represent an extreme view on many issues while I'm in the moderate, I am not agasint unions. Not all the people support the unions, some acctuly think the unions have to much power and are never willing to work with businsses when cuts come and guess what they aren't! Same with businsses however. We believe they should hold a vote before going on strike to see if their is clear consusencs for the union to start striking. The policy says nothing of members of the union not being able to go on strike, so I don't see the policy stopping a member from a trade union going on strike. |
| Date | 14:31:54, April 03, 2011 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Strikes For Anyone Act |
| Message | I have set you straight and as a matter of fact, I am about to do it again. The only people who do not like the trades union are the employers and they can go get stuffed as far as I'm concerned. The unions deserve more power than the business executives as the unions represent the majority of the workforce and they protect the vaulnerable workers from exploitation from big business. Like I said your policies are as clear as mud you are telling people not to be in a trades union but no you're saying you support them, there is another double standard brought to you by Donald King and his party. There really sholudn't be a majority approval from the unions if one wants to go no a strike. They should be allowed to and government policy sholudn't prevent that, this policy is stopping people from going on strike because unless the majority of their union agrees to it, they cannot go on strike. Call me an extremist from the media's favourite catch phrase "the loony left" call me what you like, but I am a realist who puts common sense inot thier policies which are crystal clear to the constituents and we do not set double standards. By the way, i really do ont believe in this "moderate" nonsense, there is on such thing as that. You are either a left wing or a right wing no middle of the road, 50/50, six on one and half a dozen on the other stuff, it is either left or right not centre. OOC: If you can prove to me that there is such thing as "centre" or "moderate" OOC, IC or both, then I will walk backwards from my house in London to Red Square in Moscow. |
| Date | 05:43:12, April 04, 2011 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the Strikes For Anyone Act |
| Message | IC: They a person can go on strike, it is saying the union. Everyone is allowed to strike if this law stopped just a lonely member going on strike it would inculde members in the proposal it does not. I won't even try to argue that unions don't solve everything, because plainy arguing with you is like arguing with a dinning room table. Either way we are voting no. OOC: Sure let me show you. I am a Republican MODERATE!!! A moderate is someone who does not support fully their partys plan. I support cutting spending and reducing taxes however I am agasint elimanting the capital gains tax, cutting unemployment and welfare, tax breaks on oil compaines. I'm for Aborition, and Gay Marriage. Now everything their that I am against goes agasint huge part of Republican agenda, however I'm not Democract because I support cutting spending and lower taxes while most Democracts are for more spending and higher taxes on the rich. So I am a Republican cause I lean more to them on economic issues but social and social economic issues I lean Dem not Republican so I am a Republican Moderate. If you think thats not moderate or whatever then I would advise you to alert every world/nation news stations to tell them not to use the word "moderate" "independent" or "center". Now that I've explained it I won't explain again. |
| Date | 08:38:51, April 04, 2011 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Strikes For Anyone Act |
| Message | IC: I agree with the last part, it is quite hard to win over a right winger, it is like talking to a brick wall, nothing comes in nothing comes out. OOC: For starters independent doesn't come into the equation, there could be a Labour leaning independent but doesn't stand for the Labour Party in his or her constituency. However, the misunderstanding is probably to do with the cultural cringe between our two countries. You see, in the UK if you carry on like you do and say "Well, I am normally a Conservative but I agree with Labour on some points so that must make me a Conservative-Moderate". If you say that, you will get laughed right out of Britain, if not, Europe! You don't see people within a party who are closer to the centre e.g Tony Blair he was Labour but was a bit more to the centre than say Gordon Brown was. You didn't see Tony Blair in an interview saying "Oh yes I support Labour, but the Conservatives have some pretty good arguments too, that means I am a Labour-Moderate." If he said that, next day in PMQ's he would've had a beating from the Tory's. SO it doesn't work that way in the UK, However there is a party for the misfits and oddballs like these so called "moderates" and that is called the Liberal Democrat Party. Perhaps you too might like to get into bed with the lies of Nick (pause for a shot of vallium) Clegg! Ah, it is so fun and easy destroying the arguments of right wingers isn't it? |
| Date | 09:05:55, April 04, 2011 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the Strikes For Anyone Act |
| Message | OOC: All you pointed out was difference of politics in US and UK. You didn't destory my argument. |
| Date | 09:26:28, April 04, 2011 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Strikes For Anyone Act |
| Message | OOC; DO you have selective reading or something? Didn't you rea the whole thing, if you did you will find that I actually destroyed it utterly. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 288 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 298 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 164 |
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