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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of March 2143
Details
Submitted by[?]: Capitalism Now! Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2143
Description[?]:
| This seems fair and sensible to us. |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the Llywydd (President) chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the People's Democratic Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the 
Aloria Green Socialist Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Libertarian Capitalist Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Freedom Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Libertarian Capitalist Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Libertarian Capitalist Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Capitalism Now! Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Capitalism Now! Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Freedom Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Aloria Green Socialist Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Freedom Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Freedom Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:34:38, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | We are terribly under-represented here. How is this democratic? |
| Date | 16:44:30, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Capitalism Now! Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | You have a really important part in there.. food and agriculture is really important and so is infrastructure and transport. |
| Date | 17:43:41, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | Relegated to shite positions once more. Never. |
| Date | 17:47:26, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | I urge all parties to note two things: 1) Capitalist parties control the majority of positions in this cabinet. 2) Capitalist parties control the most important positions in this cabinet. As such, I urge all parties to vote against this attempt to grab more power. |
| Date | 17:48:15, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Capitalism Now! Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | Health and Social!? Education and Culture!? Trade and Industry!? Justice!? How are these so "shite"!? As you bluntly put it |
| Date | 17:56:43, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Capitalism Now! Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | I urge all parties to vote for this! Capitalists having power is not a dangerous thing, it is a good thing. |
| Date | 18:43:25, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | LCP has more positions on cabinet, but fewer votes than AGSP. Against. |
| Date | 19:10:05, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | The ICP agrees with the AGSP. Unfair representation. Against. |
| Date | 19:20:32, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Capitalism Now! Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | Is the ICP against it because i haven't given them a position? Well if it is i hope you notice you have 0 seats. As for the AGSP they have good positions in that cabinet, they just want more power. |
| Date | 19:48:55, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Social Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | We agree with the AGSP, this proposal unfairly represents the major political parties of Aloria. |
| Date | 19:51:53, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | "As for the AGSP they have good positions in that cabinet, they just want more power." Coming from you? *hilarious laughter* Ooh, that's a good one. *wiping tears of laughter from eyes* |
| Date | 20:04:08, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | "Is the ICP against it because i haven't given them a position? Well if it is i hope you notice you have 0 seats." I know I have 0 seats. I'm not against that because that is fair representation. However, those represented are represented unproportionally and unfairly. That's what I'm against. |
| Date | 20:44:41, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | It's obviously an unfair proposal, misrepresenting the votes of the Alorian people. |
| Date | 20:46:01, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Capitalism Now! Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | You're all aginst this because your all scared of our power and what we can to do with it, have we done anything rotten so far? We think not. This cabinet proposal is very fair. The only reason the FP hates it is because i gave them "shite" places, which is pathetic to say. AGSP have very important parts in this cabinet proposal and im not willing to change it. These two parties are paranoid that if The Capitalism Now! Party get this cabinet their power will be threatened, they are scared of us and do not want us HELPING the people of our glorious nation, which is all we're aiming to do! |
| Date | 20:55:05, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | Scared? Hehe. You can't even get a simple bill passed... |
| Date | 21:02:57, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Capitalism Now! Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | And yet im Head of State and top party. Oh, and guess what's actually funny? After TWO elections, you still have NO seats! |
| Date | 21:19:11, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | CNP, it takes several elections to take seats. I haven't had the chance to vote on any major issues. Seeing as one of those elections was immediately after the other, it is not surprising I got zero seats after two elections. Funny how you left that one minor detail out about the close proximity between the two elections. I disagree with you 100% now. I will rally the freedom loving parties of Aloria to endorse the FP and call for early elections. Then you will be hopeless as you watch the 3/4 liberal/libertarian MAJORITY take the HoS power from you. |
| Date | 21:33:07, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Capitalism Now! Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | Takes several elections, eh? On my first election i got 72 seats! 72! And you say it takes a few elections to get some? How wrong you are ICP, you do your pathetic little deal with the other parties, if they agree they're as foolish as you are! |
| Date | 21:46:49, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Social Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | I've talked to several other players. It ussually takes several elections to get seats... |
| Date | 21:54:56, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Capitalism Now! Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | Several... players? What?... |
| Date | 21:56:54, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Social Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | ... I believe we broke the whole "In Character" thing a while ago in this discussion, so don't give me that shite. |
| Date | 22:30:10, November 19, 2005 CET | From | Capitalism Now! Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | OOC: Sorry, but even though me and the ICP may look like were serious, were really not.. this is what politics can get like like, this is all IC. |
| Date | 00:23:44, November 20, 2005 CET | From | Fair Capitalism Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | OOC: Real politicians don't swear. (Unless they're almost dead, that is.) |
| Date | 07:49:04, November 20, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | Well, it's pointless now, but I'm gonna vote for this because it does allow me some more power (hey, you'd all vote for it if you were in the same position, and don't try to deny it). |
| Date | 10:32:09, November 20, 2005 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | No way. The ASGP is a party of integrity. |
| Date | 10:32:47, November 20, 2005 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | *AGSP ..and a party of poor typing. :p |
| Date | 11:18:15, November 20, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | No offense, but no one turns down power. Especially not, in my experience, socialists. :P |
| Date | 12:16:56, November 20, 2005 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2143 |
| Message | That is a gross generalisation. The AGSP cares about Aloria more than it craves power. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 140 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 260 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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