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Bill: On and Off Licence Sales.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Labour Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 3114
Description[?]:
| We should allow people to purchase alcohol anywhere- On Licenced premises and also on off licenced premises. It should just be restricted to places such as pubs, restaurants, hotels etc, but places which are off licenced like convenience stores, petrol stations, supermarkets etc should be allowed to sell them as well. OOC: In the UK places that serve alcohol off licence like convenience stores or petrol stations, their prices are usually much cheaper than places sold on licence like pubs. However, if you buy alcohol from an off licenced place you have tr drink it somewhere else, I don't know why but that is a strange rule. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards alcoholic beverages.
Old value:: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, and can only be available to adults.
Current: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, and can only be available to adults.
Proposed: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased and consumed anywhere, but only by adults.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:42:09, April 28, 2011 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the On and Off Licence Sales. |
| Message | Last time I checked you must have a lisence to sell alcholic beverages. |
| Date | 07:19:03, April 28, 2011 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the On and Off Licence Sales. |
| Message | Yes I know, but I want to change that law to make anyone sell alcoholic beverages not just the pubs and hotels supermarkets and convenience stores should be allowed to sell them as well. |
| Date | 17:05:56, April 28, 2011 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the On and Off Licence Sales. |
| Message | Why dont the supermarkets and convenience stores just file for an achlohic lisence to sell it? |
| Date | 08:57:06, April 29, 2011 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the On and Off Licence Sales. |
| Message | It doesn't work that way, there is on and off licence sales. Currently, only places that are on licence can sell alcohol meaning it is only available in places such as pubs and hotels as they are where people go to buy alcohol and they go and drink it there. However off licenced places are places where alcohol isn't the primary thing being sold such as supermarkets and petrol stations so they cannot apply for a licence as they are off licence because they do not only sell alcohol. What I want to do is allow off licence places to sell alcohol. Like I said earlier off licenced places just can't apply for a licence because that is not what the only specialise in. |
| Date | 00:22:06, April 30, 2011 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the On and Off Licence Sales. |
| Message | Even if that is not the primary thing you don't sell you can still get the lisence for it. Gas stations and supermarkets still need a lisence to sell achcol and they can apply for it and get it even if that is not the primary thing they sell. OOC: Is this an english thing? Cause gas stations and supermarkets can sell achcol because they have a lisence and they can get a lisence even if it's not a primary thing they sell. My work place does that, our primary thing is regular food and we sell beer and we have a lisence. |
| Date | 05:37:02, April 30, 2011 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the On and Off Licence Sales. |
| Message | OOC: Not just English but European in general. Supermarkets and petrol stations here do sell alcohol but they don't need a licence for it, whereas pubs do. However, you can't drink the alcohol at the petrol stations or supermarkets as they only sell the alcohol they are off licenced. That is what bothers me, you should be allowed to drink anywhere not just in the pub, if I buy a bottle of wine at Tesco (which is a big supermarket chain here) I should be allowed to drink it as soon as I buy it. The reason why you're against this is probably because Americans have more stricter alcohol laws than Europe does like our legal drinking age is 18 (but technically 16 in public and even at the age of 5 in private homes) but yours is 21. Trust me even though I only turned 19 on April 12th, so I've been buying grog for about a year, it is the best time of your life when that sweet taste of wine or beer touches your lips and I feel sorry that you guys have to wait 3 extra years for it. Anyway, I digress and thats not what I'm meant to be talking about. IC: You're not getting the point, I want alcohol to be allowed to be purchased an consumed anywhere, not just in the fully licenced pubs, if you buy alcohol at a supermarket you should have every right to be drinking it there. |
| Date | 05:54:03, April 30, 2011 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the On and Off Licence Sales. |
| Message | IC: Ok That's what your wanting, you made it sound totally different to me. My bad. The only problem with that is having someone sit down in a super market and start hammering back a 6 pack. I mean people should have the right. Our concern will this affect current public intoxaction laws enfroced by police? (I assume we would do that) |
| Date | 07:06:32, April 30, 2011 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the On and Off Licence Sales. |
| Message | That scenario is highly unlikely because they have to buy the grog before they can drink and the till is at the front, so if anything they will be drinking their drinks just outside the supermarket if they want to. Public intoxication laws? What public intoxication laws? If someone is pissed from a night at the pub, they go home and have a hangover the next morning, the police can't charge someone for being pissed. If they are pissed and start abusing other people than yes they can step in, but as far as I know being pissed in public is not a crime. |
| Date | 02:36:18, May 01, 2011 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the On and Off Licence Sales. |
| Message | Public intoxication laws is basically distrubing the peace but drunk. |
| Date | 03:51:43, May 01, 2011 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the On and Off Licence Sales. |
| Message | Yes, I know that but it isn't a crime to be drunk and be doing nothing wrong. Anyway, this has nothing to do with this lets keep to the topic, are you voting for this or not? |
| Date | 03:54:09, May 01, 2011 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the On and Off Licence Sales. |
| Message | We will vote yes |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 750 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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