We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.
Bill: Coalition for the Future Bill 1 - Removing Forced Military/Civilian Service
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Liberal Caucus
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 3179
Description[?]:
| . |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Current: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Proposed: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:58:36, September 08, 2011 CET | From |  United Liberal Caucus | To | Debating the Coalition for the Future Bill 1 - Removing Forced Military/Civilian Service |
| Message | Why should the people be forced to be in a position they did not choose? This is taking valuable, productive years from a person's life. While their toiling away at an unwanted job they could be out getting a career or starting a famly. That is why the LUC and the "Coalition for the Future" think this is a good bill. -Zi Yanng LUC Defense Secretary |
| Date | 15:28:54, September 08, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Catholic Party | To | Debating the Coalition for the Future Bill 1 - Removing Forced Military/Civilian Service |
| Message | We fully agree. We propose that any Cabinet's official proposal has the words: "Coalition for the Future: No bill ...". |
| Date | 16:09:06, September 08, 2011 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Coalition for the Future Bill 1 - Removing Forced Military/Civilian Service |
| Message | "Does this Government not support a solid structure for our youth? Does this Government not support a strong Military force? Does this Government not support civic responsibility and patriotism? All men ought to do their duty and serve their country and yet the 'Defence' Secretary, who seems watery on National Security at best, thinks that to serve one's nation is not "valuable" or "productive". How can their Coalition allies stand for this?" Joachuim Buemi, Former Secretary of State for Defence, Unionist National Security & Intelligence Spokesman Unionist LGBT Committee Chairman |
| Date | 18:00:30, September 08, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Catholic Party | To | Debating the Coalition for the Future Bill 1 - Removing Forced Military/Civilian Service |
| Message | "Warmongers and militarists," said Sen. Tresta (SPP) in response to Buemi (Unionist). "They want to send our young people to die to sell their dirty weapons. For 50 years FIP & Unionist have continued to do so. But now we want to end this barbarity by signing this law." |
| Date | 18:08:06, September 08, 2011 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Coalition for the Future Bill 1 - Removing Forced Military/Civilian Service |
| Message | "What Lies! The Unionist Party has a 500 year history of staunch pacifism! We have not went to war once in all of our history! Why does the SPP assume it can lie it's way through this Senate? No young people die during their term in our Military or Civic service because our nation is never at war. The purpose of the force is for security and to impose discipline. How dare they call us warmongerers when they themselves would have us sell-off our armed forces and allow foreign nations to invade our realm." Joachuim Buemi, Former Secretary of State for Defence, Unionist National Security & Intelligence Spokesman Unionist LGBT Committee Chairman |
| Date | 22:14:24, September 08, 2011 CET | From | United Liberal Caucus | To | Debating the Coalition for the Future Bill 1 - Removing Forced Military/Civilian Service |
| Message | The idea that the LUC is weak on the military is wrong. But the idea the government should force our young people into a service they did not choose is government sanctioned serfdom. Forcing our young people to die in wars not of their choosing and to have them build roads in bridges in our civilian service. If anything this bill makes military service all the more nobler. In that THEY choose to serve. -Zi Yanng LUC Defense Secretary |
| Date | 23:57:17, September 08, 2011 CET | From | Federal Republic Progressionist Party | To | Debating the Coalition for the Future Bill 1 - Removing Forced Military/Civilian Service |
| Message | The nation is never at war so why should we force people to join the military. If they don't want to join and were not at war then it shouldn't matter. |
| Date | 16:51:27, September 09, 2011 CET | From | Chann National Party (CNP) | To | Debating the Coalition for the Future Bill 1 - Removing Forced Military/Civilian Service |
| Message | Patriotism and civil service is a CHOICE and it is an infringement upon the civil rights of the citizen to arbitrarily force his/her/their enlistment into military or civil duties. Under no condition does the Chann Democratic Party support the infringement of civil rights and liberties and we therefore call all peace loving and democracy minded individuals and parties to vote YES on this bill. Sotear Chann Founder and Chairman, Chann Democratic Party |
subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe
Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 251 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 174 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Real-life organisations should not be referenced in Particracy, unless they are simple and generic (eg. "National Organisation for Women" is allowed). |
| Random quote: "In any country there must be people who have to die. They are the sacrifices any nation has to make to achieve law and order." - Idi Amin |