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Bill: National Service
Details
Submitted by[?]: Centre Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3217
Description[?]:
We believe that introducing a form of National Service will do our young people good. The idea of service and duty can often be lost in the present day - we believe this will help bring it back. We also give the option for people to serve in a non-military area if their conscience forbids them. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Current: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 19:34:51, November 22, 2011 CET | From | National Citizens Cobura | To | Debating the National Service |
Message | The NCC would say yes. |
Date | 20:03:59, November 22, 2011 CET | From | Left Party | To | Debating the National Service |
Message | We agree - as this is similar to the Nordic Model, that has done the North well |
Date | 21:49:09, November 22, 2011 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the National Service |
Message | No! We have to respect the individual decision of each adult. They by then are old enough, no one shall be forced. |
Date | 22:48:40, November 22, 2011 CET | From | Centre Party | To | Debating the National Service |
Message | Although individual rights are great, the good of society must be taken into consideration. This will do people no harm and will only benefit them. Sure, they may find it a bit tough at times, but life is tough and it will only help them prepare for the future. |
Date | 23:48:21, November 22, 2011 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the National Service |
Message | "Where is the good for the society? I do not see any benefit in being forced to a mandatory term in military. It rather can bring up aversion against the state who did so. Young people want to be free and live their lives and there is nothing wrong about it." - Helena Lazareva, Prime Minister |
Date | 01:18:09, November 23, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party | To | Debating the National Service |
Message | Conscription system give us nothing but soldiers. When these time of high-tech war, we do need more of equipments and technologies, not less-trained massive army. |
Date | 20:04:52, November 23, 2011 CET | From | Social Congress | To | Debating the National Service |
Message | "We need to get our defence spending down and our respect for young adults up! This is the wrong way to go about it completely." Róisín McGrath - Justice Spokesperson for the Social Congress |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes |
Total Seats: 22 | |||
no | Total Seats: 643 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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