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Bill: Left-Labor Reforms

Details

Submitted by[?]: Left-Labor Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 2159

Description[?]:

Im doing this... just to prove to the BLP that they dont have to spam the hell out of our bills page just to get things done.

I dont expect this to pass.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date03:05:17, December 07, 2005 CET
From Left-Labor Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
Message30 articles! MY NEW RECORD.

Can you imagine.. 30 new bills? This is much more sensible...

Date04:15:12, December 07, 2005 CET
From Barmenistan Freedom Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageI actually like quite a few of these, but obviously I cannot support the entire bill.

Date06:51:17, December 07, 2005 CET
From Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageWe agree with the BFP. We do support a few. We advice the LLP to separate them.

Date14:49:18, December 07, 2005 CET
From Modern Intellectual Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageWe agree as well, some we support, some we don't

Date03:59:45, December 08, 2005 CET
From Left-Labor Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageNeato.

Wich ones DO BLP and BFP support?

I have plenty of quota... I can separate if you want.

Date06:03:16, December 08, 2005 CET
From Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageQuite a shop you got there. We are not going to point out which one we are willing to support. The BLP does not cooperate with this kind of dealings. Next time you are going to tire our party apparatus with another record breaking spam of articles. The BLP will wait and see.
As it is this bill we are not going to support.

Date23:35:37, December 09, 2005 CET
From Left-Labor Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageWhy not? I simply do not understand you?

Whats so bad with putting a whole bunch of articles together?

Its not like Im making 30 bills with only 1 proposal...

Date00:00:17, December 10, 2005 CET
From Barmenistan National Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageNot that I support all the new positions, but in most cases they are a step in the right direction. Love article 16

Date06:21:02, December 10, 2005 CET
From Krsyiji Mrjogadé Prta
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageI have to agree with BLP on this, this is way too many articles. These bills go something like this if you are not lucky enough to support/oppose it all:

Damned if you vote yes
Damned if you vote no
More damned if you dont vote

I am going to support, but there is a moderate amount that I don't really like, especially the religious parts.

Date09:10:46, December 10, 2005 CET
From Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageLPP: we have to agree with the PDP. There are an article of 4 we would have supported. The rest we oppose. All your articles will influence the political profile of every party. Besides that how do you want to debate this proposal with 30 articles anyway. Wasn't it the LPP who brought the "Resolution on Congressional Debate" to a vote recently ?
Does this porposal meet the standards of that resolution do you think ?

Date09:25:11, December 10, 2005 CET
From Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageLooking at all these articles and my "no" vote this proposal will have a great effect on my civil liberties. So the BLP decided to bring a "civil liberty" proposal to the vote to compensate the effect on our profile.

Date12:36:06, December 10, 2005 CET
From Modern Intellectual Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageI am very torn! There are some I really proposals I really want made into law, but some I passionately don't. But mainly because it would bring back a free health service I shall vote yes

Date12:48:53, December 10, 2005 CET
From Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageWe are pleased the Proposal Reform Bill passed the House with a 2/3 majority. From now on a party has 10 proposals a year which can accumulate to max 15. It will limit the appearances of bills like this one.

Date20:17:37, December 11, 2005 CET
From Left-Labor Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageWell... Gooddamn.

If you guys like certain proposals, TELL ME WICH ONES. Dont bitch about them but not tell me wich ones.

Date21:09:12, December 11, 2005 CET
From Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageOk, the BLP supports the following articles:

3-proposed: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased and consumed anywhere, but only by adults
4-proposed: Charter schools must be non-profit and have a specific focus.
10- proposed: Anyone may sell food, but shelf lives of foods are enforced.
11-proposed: All foreign marriages are recognised, regardless of domestic policy regarding marriage.
13-proposed: Gambling is legal, but only in private homes and casinos with special licence
14-proposed: The private sector can set up gated communities.
21-proposed: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service
31-proposed: Private companies are responsible for disposing of their own waste. The government disposes of residential waste.


Date23:46:03, December 11, 2005 CET
From Left-Labor Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageTHANK YOU! Thats what I was looking for.

Date03:59:33, December 12, 2005 CET
From Left-Labor Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageOkay. Removed all the ones BLP supports in an effort to chop this down.

Now, what do the other parties support?

Date23:51:11, December 14, 2005 CET
From Left-Labor Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageI have Henceforth decided that this bill will NOT go to vote. I will use it as a personal reference when making bills. Eventually, this bill will no longer exist.

Date02:51:30, December 15, 2005 CET
From Left-Labor Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageThis will NOT PASS because of the elections.

Please vote how you would, and state all the articles you dont like, and preferably why.

Date08:51:28, December 15, 2005 CET
From Modern Intellectual Party
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageI have voted no because I strongly oppose articles 20, 13, 10, 8

Date13:05:56, December 15, 2005 CET
From Cydweith Rhydd
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageThe Collective opposes articles 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18, 20 and 21.

Date14:50:39, December 15, 2005 CET
From Plaid Cydweithol (Ailgodi)
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageWe're against Articles 4 (why register domesticated animals?), 5 (government should subsidise the development of pharmaceuticals, it helps save lives), 8 (creating a nomenklatura of civil servants is fundamentally wrong), 11 (we have no illegal immigrants), 12 (hemp is a crop like any other), 13 (why have recreational cannabis completely legal but medicinal not?), 20 (creates the problem of recognising religions and denying others as well as contradicting our laic principles) and 24 (arms exports should be allowed but only to progressive governments and groups).

Date07:35:25, December 21, 2005 CET
From Krsyiji Mrjogadé Prta
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageHmmph, changed your mind about putting this bill to vote?

Date09:22:52, December 21, 2005 CET
From Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan
ToDebating the Left-Labor Reforms
MessageThe BLP regrets this action, although the proposals which we favoured are removed and were put to the vote earlier. It is a shadow of the past..... This proves again that the decission to limit the number of proposals was a right one.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 26

no
     

Total Seats: 312

abstain
  

Total Seats: 63


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