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Bill: State Supremacy Act, 3366
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Justice Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3369
Description[?]:
| THERE SHALL BE No courts. No old men judging criminal cases; rather, all those accused of a crime shall come before a Vanguard, who shall make the judgement as to guilt or innocence. Only then can we preserve the power of the almighty State. AND APPEALS Shall be impossible, because the State has better things to worry about that a whinging criminal, who knows his own guilt but is too nefarious to admit it, trying to have a Vanguard's judgement reversed. The Vanguards are always right, because they have behind them the omniscience of the State itself. LEGAL AID Is merely an excuse for traitors and criminals to sap money from the coffers of the State to find a man more able to get them out of trouble. There shall be no legal aid from the State - there shall be no lawyers to prevent the course of righteous justice. TO MAKE THE JOB Of the said Vanguards easier, the military must have greater powers. They shall search letters and information so deviant thoughts may be revealed. They shall search property without restrictions - which traitor would open his door to Vanguard law enforcement officials? IN ADDITION TO THIS Torture shall be used to obtain information from traitors who would never reveal the hideous nature of their plots without being placed under extreme duress. There will be innocents mistakenly tortured, but the rights of the State shall trump the non-existent rights of the individual. THE MILITARY Shall be the police, and they shall carry military-grade weapons. They shall be unrestricted in the exercise of their powers. Their unlimited power shall be wielded in the name of the unlimited power of the State. AND DNA Must be recorded. It is perhaps the simplest way to ensure that criminals and traitors are caught and brought to justice by the State. THERE CAN BE No person who owns dangerous weapons. We shall restrict weapon ownership, and restrict where they can be taken. These weapons must be carried openly. Thus, the State shall not be hassled by armed traitors and villains. TO FURTHER Maintain public order, no people shall be allowed out beyond a certain curfew time, except in emergencies or with official approval from a Vanguard official. IF THERE IS Someone sufficiently bold, stupid and anti-Vanguard to break the laws, we must exterminate them like the vermin and parasites they are. They shall be publicly shot so that they will no longer exist to disrupt the good order of the State, and to serve as an example to those that need encouragement to give their utmost loyalty of the State. All crimes shall henceforth be capital. IN SUCH A WAY The supremacy of the State, inherent to the State, shall be preserved. Those that wish to undermine it will be found out, seized, tried and brought to ultimate justice. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The right to appeal against a judgement rendered by a court.
Old value:: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Current: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Proposed: All judgements are final and binding; appealing against them is not possible.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Weapon concealment.
Old value:: People must first obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons.
Current: Where weapons are carried, this must be done openly.
Proposed: Where weapons are carried, this must be done openly.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's position towards the administration of law.
Old value:: There is a uniform system of courts across the nation.
Current: There are regional courts that have jurisdiction over questions of regional law and national courts that have jurisdiction over questions of national law.
Proposed: There are no courts.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Curfew policy (curfew time to be determined in the bill description).
Old value:: No curfew policies may be established.
Current: The national government may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Proposed: No-one may use streets or public property beyond the curfew time.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is applied to most minor and all major criminal offences.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's position towards the use of forensic DNA databases.
Old value:: Only DNA from persons convicted of crime is recorded.
Current: DNA from persons accused or convicted for a crime is recorded.
Proposed: All citizens' DNA is recorded.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Government provision of legal aid to the accused.
Old value:: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Current: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Proposed: Legal representation is never paid for by the state.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The confidentiality of letters and correspondence.
Old value:: The confidentiality of letters is inviolable.
Current: The confidentiality of letters is inviolable, but the justice dept. can violate it in extreme situations.
Proposed: The confidentiality of letters is not inviolable.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Current: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons.
Proposed: Police officers carry military-grade equipment.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change Government's policy towards the powers of the police.
Old value:: The police may arrest crime suspects.
Current: The police may arrest crime suspects.
Proposed: The powers of the police are not restricted.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change Police searches.
Old value:: The police cannot search a person or their property without their consent unless the police have obtained a warrant from a court or in cases of imminent danger.
Current: The police cannot search a person or their property without their consent unless the police have obtained a warrant from a court or in cases of imminent danger.
Proposed: The police can search a person or their property without restrictions.
Article 13
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Article 14
Proposal[?] to change Right to privacy.
Old value:: Individuals have a right to privacy, to keep records and information for themselves.
Current: Individuals have a right to privacy, but the courts can force individuals to give information on certain matters if needed. (also known as Habeas Data).
Proposed: The government has the right to monitor information of individuals without letting them know.
Article 15
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, but these may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Current: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Proposed: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:07:44, September 17, 2012 CET | From |  Union of Working People's Forces | To | Debating the State Supremacy Act, 3366 |
| Message | It sounds like military dictatorship to me (especially articles 4-6); the UWPF will never vote this. |
| Date | 10:43:50, September 18, 2012 CET | From | United Justice Party | To | Debating the State Supremacy Act, 3366 |
| Message | THIS IS INDEED A dictatorship. Only a dictatorship can ensure the supremacy of the State. IF YOU VOTE Against this bill, you shall violate the natural law of the power of the State above the rights of the individual. YOU SHALL BE Known to all true Vanguards as traitors, worthy of death. |
| Date | 17:50:16, September 18, 2012 CET | From | Democratic Union Party | To | Debating the State Supremacy Act, 3366 |
| Message | NO WAY! |
| Date | 18:45:49, September 18, 2012 CET | From | United Badara - Queranzist Brotherhood | To | Debating the State Supremacy Act, 3366 |
| Message | "There are no courts." Yes, that sounds like a brilliant idea! *sarcasm* |
| Date | 18:54:23, September 18, 2012 CET | From | Al Jabha al-Queranzīa Badariyā | To | Debating the State Supremacy Act, 3366 |
| Message | "THIS IS INDEED A dictatorship. Only a dictatorship can ensure the supremacy of the State. IF YOU VOTE Against this bill, you shall violate the natural law of the power of the State above the rights of the individual. YOU SHALL BE Known to all true Vanguards as traitors, worthy of death." New dictator in the way |
| Date | 19:38:43, September 18, 2012 CET | From | Al Jabha al-Queranzīa Badariyā | To | Debating the State Supremacy Act, 3366 |
| Message | This bill Shows that Society and Radicals are the biggest Dictators ! No courts huh ? |
| Date | 22:21:28, September 18, 2012 CET | From | United Justice Party | To | Debating the State Supremacy Act, 3366 |
| Message | INDEED There won't be courts. JUSTICE IS Best administered by Vanguards, not some shuffling old jurist with a brainful of knowledge, yes, but not radical Vanguard fervour. |
| Date | 08:48:06, September 19, 2012 CET | From | Al Jabha al-Queranzīa Badariyā | To | Debating the State Supremacy Act, 3366 |
| Message | Oh who are the vanguards to administrate the justice ? |
| Date | 10:48:31, September 21, 2012 CET | From | United Justice Party | To | Debating the State Supremacy Act, 3366 |
| Message | THE VANGUARDS Who run these trials will be true Vanguards. THEY SHALL BE Of good character and even temperment. That shall know the Vanguard ideals from back to front, and be qualified in the law. THE HEAD OF STATE Will appoint those qualified to judicial posts. |
| Date | 13:16:30, September 21, 2012 CET | From | Al Jabha al-Queranzīa Badariyā | To | Debating the State Supremacy Act, 3366 |
| Message | You mean Jalal will pick good people hahahhahaa it is a joke ! |
| Date | 17:30:26, September 21, 2012 CET | From | Red Vanguard Dominion | To | Debating the State Supremacy Act, 3366 |
| Message | WHY ARE YOU LUMPING TOGETHER Our two parties, when I have not voted on this bill? YOU SAY "This bill Shows that Society and Radicals are the biggest Dictators ! No courts huh ?" AND WE HAVE NOT Even voted yet. FOR THE RECORD We do not approve this bill. |
| Date | 07:04:27, September 22, 2012 CET | From | United Justice Party | To | Debating the State Supremacy Act, 3366 |
| Message | THIS IS WHY We broke away from the Red Vanguard Society. WE WERE Unsatisfied with your committment to compromise and moderation. WE ARE THE Radicals, true Vanguards. We wanted full-blown Vanguardism. We wanted to implement our agenda - not partially, but totally. YOU PROVE AGAIN That you cannot find the strength to fully devote yourself to Vanguardism. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 35 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 538 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 120 |
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