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Bill: Normalization of Gaduridos-Solentian Relations
Details
Submitted by[?]: Revolución Democrática y Popular
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3382
Description[?]:
| The Victorious Junta wishes to normalize relations with Solentia. |
Proposals
Article 1
Withdraw from the Embargo on Solentia.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:20:18, October 17, 2012 CET | From |  Grand Liberal Party | To | Debating the Normalization of Gaduridos-Solentian Relations |
| Message | Greetings from the government of the Federal Republic of Solentia, we would like to thank the Victorious Junta for doing away with this act of Karav agression. We very much hope to have a full and fruitful diplomatic relationship in the future. William Clarke Supreme President of Solentia |
| Date | 06:06:43, October 18, 2012 CET | From |  Beluz Democratic Karavist Party | To | Debating the Normalization of Gaduridos-Solentian Relations |
| Message | There was no "Karav aggression" as this idiot claims. Solentia cut relations with Gaduridos after the Adamsonite regime was overthrown. http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=357825 http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4743&start=20#p42435 They didn't care about Gaduri freedom. Even if you vote to normalise relations, they will have to have a vote to repeal their own embargo before relations can truly be considered normal. They won't do that until they see this, that I'm saying. You can also make all the good relations you want - the Solentians have been making friends with Dranland over and over again for decades. Are they friends or not? Do embassies take 500 years to be built? Do they have to make every tiny diplomatic event with Dranland turn into a long drawn-out story to attract attention? It will probably take Gaduridos 2000 years to have an embassy in Solentia. Solentia's closest friend, Dranland, had to wait long enough. They're just going to keep delaying things then making new plans to build the same embassy over and over again as they have done with Dranland. Also, regardless of the law, theKFS outlet in Gaduridos will not accept Solentian currency. The KFS would rather leave Gaduridos instead of further helping it to restabilise its currency. The Solentians will only make hundreds of news posts saying they're helping, but they'll be too busy making the news posts to actually help. They're all a show - no meaning or substance. Kristov III, Anti-Adamson Revolutionary |
| Date | 06:10:47, October 18, 2012 CET | From | Beluz Democratic Karavist Party | To | Debating the Normalization of Gaduridos-Solentian Relations |
| Message | This bill will serve no purpose until the Solentians repeal their own economic sanctions against the post-Adamsonite Gaduridos. If the KFS is forced out of Gaduridos, you will have to fix your currency problems, yourselves. We would like to stay and help, but don't force us to accept Solentian currency - it is valued nothing to us. Albert Henson Jr., CEO of KFS |
| Date | 07:51:31, October 18, 2012 CET | From | Revolución Democrática y Popular | To | Debating the Normalization of Gaduridos-Solentian Relations |
| Message | The Victorious Junta is monitoring the currency situation. If the KFS refuses to assist due to this embargo, we will be forced to take further action. If it takes 2000 years to construct an Embassy, then so be it. The road to peace and prosperity may be long; however, the Victorious Junta has proven that we are both patient and ready to lead our nation on that path. |
| Date | 12:39:19, October 18, 2012 CET | From | Beluz Democratic Karavist Party | To | Debating the Normalization of Gaduridos-Solentian Relations |
| Message | We never said we will refuse to assist because of the embargo - what are you talking about? We said that if the embargo is lifted de jure, it will have no effect on the de facto currency relations. We will not accept Solentian currency. If we are forced to accept Solentian currency, we will leave. Once you don't force us to accept Solentian currency, we will stay, even if the embargo is lifted. By the way, Solentia was the one to put the embargo in place; Gaduridos just responded by doing the same. Even if this bill is passed, Solentia will need to repeal its own embargo before this bill has any effect. I'm not sure what currency Solentia will use to trade with Gaduridos. They have no way of getting the GAD, and you'd have to use another currency to get theirs. Albert Henson Jr., CEO of KFS |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes | Total Seats: 750 | |
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Submitting a bill without any proposals in it will not attract or detract voters. It will not raise your visibility or change your political position. |
| Random quote: "Democrats couldn't care less if people in Indiana hate them. But if Europeans curl their lips, liberals can't look at themselves in the mirror." - Ann Coulter |