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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of November 3424
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3425
Description[?]:
| Dranland has voted for change. I believe the government proposed in this Cabinet Bill will give Dranland the stability and direction she needs for the next 4 years. President Digby Monmouth MP |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Democratic Socialist Party
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Democratic Socialist Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Democratic Socialist Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Civic Democratic Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Democratic Socialist Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Civic Democratic Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Democratic Socialist Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Civic Democratic Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Democratic Socialist Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Democratic Socialist Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:05:29, January 11, 2013 CET | From | Conservative National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | OOC: Not exactly - you only won a quarter of the votes. And they endorsed your Presidential candidate, I am assuming, because Marshall is a bit dubious, legally speaking. They are right-wing parties. |
| Date | 23:46:12, January 11, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I wonder how ED and PGR intend to hold onto their principles if they chose to degarde themselves to bedfellows of a more and more left-wing DSP. Or have they already converted to socialism, in which case they might have considered informing the voters before the election for the sake of honesty? Craig Warwick MP Member for Elbian GNP Parliamentary Leader |
| Date | 23:46:14, January 11, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I wonder how ED and PGR intend to hold onto their principles if they chose to degarde themselves to bedfellows of a more and more left-wing DSP. Or have they already converted to socialism, in which case they might have considered informing the voters before the election for the sake of honesty? Craig Warwick MP Member for Elbian GNP Parliamentary Leader |
| Date | 00:27:24, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, what I am proposing here is a government of national unity, and it includes both socialists and centralists. This Cabinet would be a breath of fresh air for Dranland, and reinvigorate the politics of our nation. With the greatest of respected to the Honourable Member Craig Warwick, the people of Dranland have not voted for another 4 years of rule by the GNP and the PP. Our people want change and they want to see new faces in charge. Digby Monmouth (President of Dranland) |
| Date | 00:35:26, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I'm not arrogating to claim cabinet positions for my party or the PP whatsoever, which would be disrespectful for the democratic process in the light of the recent results. I'm just raising doubts how a coalition of free-market nationalists, moderate conservatives and left-wing socialists could find any common ground. Craig Warwick MP Member for Elbian GNP Parliamentary Leader |
| Date | 00:40:29, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, well, at least one area of common ground that the 3 parties in this coalition share is that they do not belong to the GNP-PP alliance which has misgoverned Dranland for decades and undermined the cohesion of our society to the extent that we nearly had a civil war. Digby Monmouth (President of Dranland) |
| Date | 00:45:25, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, it is only utter ignorance that could have inclined the His Excellency the President to suggest that the policies of the GNP-PP government, which always supported ethnic diversity, tolerance and peaceful co-existence of cultures as essential foundations of our freedom-minded agenda, have caused ethnic tensions and nationalist uprising. Unfortunately, he seems to have betrayed his self-proclaimed mission of uniting Dranland all too soon by coming up with such despicable accusations. Craig Warwick MP Member for Elbian GNP Parliamentary Leader |
| Date | 00:53:09, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | OOC: You are doing a very clever job of entangling me in this argument just as I'm trying to persuade other parties to help put my guys in power. Perhaps if I was smarter I wouldn't have responded :) IC: Madam Speaker, I am not saying anything different to what the DSP has been saying all the way through the election campaign, and indeed before. The far-right economic policies of the GNP and the PP have alienated the ordinary people of this country and made them feel they don't have a stake in society. One significant consequence of this has been that in recent years we have seen a surge in support for political extremism, and we all know what this led to in Valdor Province. The mission of the government I am proposing will be to heal the wounds of the Dranish nation and give the ordinary people the decent chance in life which they have been denied by years of GNP-PP governments. Digby Monmouth (President of Dranland) |
| Date | 01:00:35, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | OOC: Indeed, this was my intention ;-) Madam Speaker, the mission of the DSP is not to offer ordinary people real chances, but to find scapegoats for why they're struggling. It is not the rich that hold them back from earning a decent living, it is socialism and statism, which keeps them dependent and suggests to them to blame others instead of pursuing greatness. This is the socialist policy, and this is what Dranland does not need. No right-winger with self-respect should surrender to or even endorse the vices of government-imposed egalitarianism, which means that the state will punish some and help others, according to the preferences of bureaucrats and polticians. This is not our definition of a free society. Craig Warwick MP Member for Elbian GNP Parliamentary Leader |
| Date | 02:08:12, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Popular Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | I take issue with Mr Monmouth's description of our government. At no point have we we implemented 'far-right' policies. The Popular Party would never be part if any government which was seeking to implement such policies. Mr Monmouth should get his facts right before making such outlandish statements. Mariano Delgado MP Deputy Prime Minister |
| Date | 03:08:35, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, We like this government, however we believe that the Prime Minister should be of a another party. Cordelia Calderon Bedward MP President of PGR |
| Date | 03:24:53, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, in response to the gentleman's statement, we are not socialists. We believed that a unity government is a great opinion in light of events, however we will not give up our values. Aerona Cadwallader MP PGR Parliamentary Chairwoman |
| Date | 03:55:03, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Civic Democratic Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, Encrucijada Democrática is not a party of the right, nor of the left. It is not a party of socialism nor is it a party of capitalism. We are a party of the center, for Dranland. We believed that it was the right time to support progressive, center-left ideals; this is why we supported President Monmouth in his successful election bid. I yield. David Montavez, MP Member for Magadonia Chairman of Encrucijada Democrática |
| Date | 14:26:25, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the Honourable Member Mariano Delgado knows as well as I do that all the time his party has been in power, it has supported and maintained far-right economic policies which have trampled all over the ordinary people of this nation. May I remind him, for example, of the evil right-wing plot to privatise Dranland's education system? Or our grossly underfunded public services? Or our income tax regime which is one of the least progressive in Terra and lets the rich get away with paying very little indeed? George Butterworth MP (Former leader of the DSP) |
| Date | 14:46:10, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Popular Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | My party believes we should implement policies based on economic reality, not political populism. If higher taxes on the rich would actually bring in any money, the PP would support it. But we will not support the wholesale raising of taxes on our wealth-creators for no reason other than economic stupidity and political maneuvering. Mariano Delgado Deputy Prime Minister (PP) |
| Date | 17:16:45, January 12, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of November 3424 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I am delighted to hear Mariano Delgado's pledge to support taxes on the rich which raise more revenue for public sector investment. We in the DSP look forward to receiving his backing when we announce our income tax proposals. George Butterworth MP (Former leader of the DSP) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 138 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 102 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 111 |
| Random fact: Information about the population of each country can be found on the Population Information thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8663 |
| Random quote: "While the State exists, there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no State." - Vladimir Lenin |