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Bill: Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3430
Description[?]:
Proposals
Article 1
Withdraw from the Pro-Democracy Treatry.
Article 2
Withdraw from the World Nuclear Treaty.
Article 3
Withdraw from the International Mind Sports Association.
Article 4
Withdraw from the International Free Trade Agreement.
Article 5
Withdraw from the The International Film Festival and Awards Ceremony.
Article 6
Withdraw from the Global Freedom, Equality, and Security Initiative.
Article 7
Withdraw from the Formula One Racing - International World Championship Circuit.
Article 8
Withdraw from the Openning An Embassy in Jakania Policy.
Article 9
Withdraw from the Charter of the International Court.
Article 10
Withdraw from the Mordusian Neutrality Pact.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:18:57, January 23, 2013 CET | From | Social Liberal Party of Vorona (SLP) | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | What are you doing, seriously? |
| Date | 13:23:01, January 23, 2013 CET | From |  People's Party | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | We're cutting bureaucracy and creating a constitution which will cover many of the areas covered by treaties. |
| Date | 13:24:37, January 23, 2013 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | The constitution can be found here: http://classic.particracy.net/viewtreaty.php?treatyid=2387 |
| Date | 13:25:43, January 23, 2013 CET | From | Social Liberal Party of Vorona (SLP) | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | And so it is your terms once again; we won't be able to change the "constitution" without your permission |
| Date | 13:28:08, January 23, 2013 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | Its not my terms, they're very reasonable articles with fairness and civil liberties at the heart of them. Many of them also have multiple options. It simply prevents tyrannical regimes seizing power in Vorona and ensures that the people cannot be oppressed. |
| Date | 13:31:32, January 23, 2013 CET | From | Social Liberal Party of Vorona (SLP) | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | Your articles in the constitutional reform bill also reeks of tyrants. Only heads of state can propose cabinets? Seriously? |
| Date | 13:33:45, January 23, 2013 CET | From | Social Liberal Party of Vorona (SLP) | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | Your articles in the constitutional reform bill also reeks of tyrants. Only heads of state can propose cabinets? Seriously? |
| Date | 13:34:20, January 23, 2013 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | That system is the traditional political system of Vorona. I don't see an unfairness in that. It would be pointless in electing a head of state that has no powers. |
| Date | 13:42:42, January 23, 2013 CET | From | Social Liberal Party of Vorona (SLP) | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | The traditional political system in Vorona, I repeat, is a monarchy. A cabinet should be determined by the largest party or a coalition of small parties, who are able to form a majority or plurality in government. The head of state may not be from that party or parties. This article will be flawed. |
| Date | 13:44:52, January 23, 2013 CET | From | Social Liberal Party of Vorona (SLP) | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | And FYI, the purpose of international treaties is to ensure an international world order an a peaceful global system. You cannot just withdraw from them to "remove bureaucracy". |
| Date | 13:49:10, January 23, 2013 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | Then what exactly is the point of having an elected head of state if the position has no power? It is pointless. Usually the winner of the head of state election is also the winner of the legislative election too so I see no reason why this is causing great concern. Our reasoning behind this proposal, as we have explained, is to give meaning to the position of head of state as currently it is powerless. Furthermore, we would hope that in a modern democracy such as Vorona that the head of state would make a fair cabinet proposal anyway. Regarding treaties, many of those we're proposing to withdraw from have articles that are covered by other treaties that we are signatories of. There is no point being signatories to numerous treaties that cover the same things. |
| Date | 14:06:51, January 23, 2013 CET | From | Social Liberal Party of Vorona (SLP) | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | In the past few elections of Vorona, the head of state wasn't the winner of the legislative election too. Chec the electoral history. This will happen again if there exist another multi-party system here. Each of the treaties advocate different causes, regardless of whatever their articles are. Please understand that role-playing plays a part here. |
| Date | 14:10:48, January 23, 2013 CET | From | People's Party | To | Debating the Anti-Bureaucracy Act.3429 |
| Message | The head of state candidate should be fair enough to propose a fair cabinet that should either include the largest party or a coalition of like minded parties. If you have that much distrust in Voronan politics it is quite a wonder why your party continues to exist.. I repeat: either, there are other treaties that we are already signatories to that cover things that we propose to withdraw from, and the consitution we are proposing will cover the most important areas anyway. (Yes RP is important, but when you cannot access the forums thats quite tricky) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 239 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 11 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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