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Bill: Reintroduction of Equalisation of Taxation Bill and the Reduction of Privilege Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Internationale Kommunistische Partei
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3441
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Titles of nobility.
Old value:: Titles of nobility may be granted by the government and any other political body designated by it.
Current: No titles of nobility are granted or recognised, their use is forbidden.
Proposed: Titles of nobility are not granted, but their use is not forbidden.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Privileges of nobility (if nobility is recognised by the government).
Old value:: Nobility confers titles and minor political rights, but no direct control over people or land, and can be hereditary.
Current: Nobility confers only titles and certain minor rights, but no political powers, and can be hereditary.
Proposed: Nobility confers only titles and certain minor rights, but no political powers, and is not hereditary.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: No religions are taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:00:59, February 14, 2013 CET | From | Hosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund | To | Debating the Reintroduction of Equalisation of Taxation Bill and the Reduction of Privilege Bill |
| Message | Will the government tell us how this bill would affect the Imperial Courts? I believe they might have failed to take into account the role our nobility - and those recently recognised as such as life peers - play in sober second thought in the upper house. |
| Date | 17:10:57, February 14, 2013 CET | From | Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Reintroduction of Equalisation of Taxation Bill and the Reduction of Privilege Bill |
| Message | OOC: There's an upper house? |
| Date | 17:29:32, February 14, 2013 CET | From | Hosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund | To | Debating the Reintroduction of Equalisation of Taxation Bill and the Reduction of Privilege Bill |
| Message | OOC: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=369325 I quote: "2) The governments and sovereignty of the Empires shall be abolished and replaced with ceremonial Imperial Courts, with all their functions falling either to the Crownlands or to the National level; sovereignty shall be placed in the national level, exercised by the Imperial Diet and Their Imperial Majesties' Government, and symbolised by Their Imperial Majesties in equal measure." "6) The Imperial Courts consist of nobles, one half appointed or created by the Emperors according to law for extraordinary service or seniority in noble circles, the other half appointed by the Emperor on the advice of the Governments of the Crownlands. They shall, with the other Imperial Court, form a house of sober second thought in addition to their ceremonial functions, which shall be able to raise objections about bills presently before the Imperial Diet if they contravene the constitution, the conventions of government and the culture of the Empires. Such an objection can delay the entry into force of legislation at least a year, but can always be defeated by a majority of the Imperial Diet." It was intended that the people appointed by the Crownland governments would be appointed proportionally to the vote, and might not even need to be aristocrats in the sense of being ennobled, but rather being a "lord" for the duration of the term. |
| Date | 20:50:34, February 14, 2013 CET | From | Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Reintroduction of Equalisation of Taxation Bill and the Reduction of Privilege Bill |
| Message | OOC: So those are the "minor political rights" that the nobles enjoy? Frankly, the AF would support abolishing the Imperial Courts, but (as monarchists for the sake of tradition rather than firm belief in the monarchical system) they still object to this legislation for: 1. Preventing the heirs of current hereditary nobles from inheriting titles, and 2. Forbidding the granting of new titles, even though such titles be mere honorifics. (The AF is open to not granting any more HEREDITARY titles, but they support life peerages for those who have performed great service.) The AF also mildly objects to Article 3, but considers it an acceptable compromise and will not push hard for its repeal. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 376 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 374 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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