We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.
Bill: DT Religion BIll
Details
Submitted by[?]: Dark Templar (LL)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3453
Description[?]:
| .ugl |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: The government determines which missionaries are permitted to visit on a person by person basis.
Current: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Proposed: Foreign missionaries are not permitted to enter the nation.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Current: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: Any form of religion is banned.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:48:15, March 10, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Communist Party (DCP) (LL) | To | Debating the DT Religion BIll |
| Message | As much as I personally may be an atheist, this legislation is far to overreaching and is actually fairly oppressive. |
| Date | 10:49:27, March 10, 2013 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the DT Religion BIll |
| Message | :) Understandable, from a typical viewpoint. The SCI considers religions to be destructive forms of mental abberation. Just as we do not allow con-men to get away with scams.... similarly do we not support letting religious leaders trick and shame people with imaginary fears and retribution while collecting their money. We live in the 35th century, we can give up the fairy tales now..... |
| Date | 17:03:21, March 10, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Communist Party (DCP) (LL) | To | Debating the DT Religion BIll |
| Message | The difference between con men and religious leaders is that most religious leaders actually believe the bull shit they preach. This bill criminalizes what a person believes, how can you call that freedom? |
| Date | 17:04:49, March 10, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Communist Party (DCP) (LL) | To | Debating the DT Religion BIll |
| Message | This also essentially changes that government from a secular state to an atheist theocracy, I don't care what century this is, this is not okay. |
| Date | 17:11:35, March 10, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Communist Party (DCP) (LL) | To | Debating the DT Religion BIll |
| Message | excuse me for swearing |
| Date | 23:34:04, March 10, 2013 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the DT Religion BIll |
| Message | This doesn't criminalize belief in religion. It only prohibits outward display, evangelism, or organization of the scam itself. You are fully free to believe whatever irrational nonsense you want, in your own home, but if you try to corrupt others, then I have an issue. |
| Date | 01:24:45, March 11, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Communist Party (DCP) (LL) | To | Debating the DT Religion BIll |
| Message | Half the point of religion is the culture and community of it, this is a blatant violation of everything we stand for. |
| Date | 02:23:26, March 11, 2013 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the DT Religion BIll |
| Message | Well, we're definitely going to disagree on that. |
| Date | 02:25:52, March 11, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Communist Party (DCP) (LL) | To | Debating the DT Religion BIll |
| Message | If a group of citizens pray in their home, technically that would be a violation of this bill. If a group of religious citizens gather in the public square to discuss there religion (something that should be allowed by freedom of speech) that would be banned by this bill. |
| Date | 09:51:53, March 12, 2013 CET | From | SCI Libertarian-Socialist Syndicate (LL) | To | Debating the DT Religion BIll |
| Message | The freedom of speech argument is specious because, as I said earlier, we view the propagation of religion to be akin to attempting to scam and defraud people. That is not free speech, that is unethical and should have no place in a modern Ikradon. Also, let's separate this out as well..... the right to privacy in someone's home is paramount. We do not support, nor see this bill as, attempting to prohibit individuals to gather in private to do anything, unless they are coercing someone into attending these religious services. If everything is completely voluntary in private and not attempting to evangelize or advertize, the SCI has no quarrel. We take issue when these private aberrant views are foisted on others, especially children. |
subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe
Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 434 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 248 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 68 |
| Random fact: Once approved, players should copy Cultural Protocols into a bill in the debate section of their nation page, under the title of "OOC: Cultural Protocols". This bill should include links to the passed Cultural Protocol bill and the Moderation approval. |
| Random quote: "The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." - Aristotle |