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Bill: Cabinet of Lucas Manon
Details
Submitted by[?]: Centre Democrats
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 3485
Description[?]:
| Mr. Speaker, I would first of all thank every person who voted for me and I would like to thank the parties that supported me at the elections. The conservative parties have lost the elections and thank God for that. There is now a centre to centre-left majority in Parliament and I would therefore like to present this cabinet proposal. Let us get Dranland back on track! Lucas Manon (R) President Party Leader |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Centre Democrats
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Centre Democrats
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Centre Democrats
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Plaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Popular Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Grand National Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Grand National Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Centre Democrats
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Popular Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Drania Cívica 🏴 시민당
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Centre Democrats
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:28:48, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr Speaker, we will gladly support this liberal coalition that will do away with the stifling restrictions the conservatives have imposed upon the civil liberties of our people. The country has voted for change, and we shall deliver! Graham Breckinridge MP Member for Magadonia Finance Minister-designate |
| Date | 22:34:13, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr Speaker, It's sad to see the RFR betray whatever libertarian ideals they had left by putting themselves in a government with liberals. We will be back! Seth Llychlynnaidd, MP |
| Date | 22:38:13, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I am naturally delighted that the DCP received more than a million extra votes compared to last time, but disappointed that our coalition has not retained its majority. As democrats, we respect the fact that the electorate appear to have voted for a new government. On behalf of my party, I wish Lucas Manon and the incoming Cabinet all the best of luck for governing the country over the next four years. Caron Rhydderch MP Minister of Foreign Affairs Chairman of the Dranish Conservative Party |
| Date | 22:39:57, May 13, 2013 CET | From | ACT Dranland | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Is my party the only one that sees the inclusion of parties such as the Popular Party - who were given a massive thumbs down considering the number of seats they lost - and the Social Democrats - who barely have any MPs at all - as an injustice? The fact is that this will be yet another government of the old guard, and we fail to see left-wing party would be able to successfully lead a government that would include many ministers from libertarian and liberal parties. This government will be a divided government, and a weak government. Huw Dafis MP, ACT Dranland leader |
| Date | 22:43:06, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | OOC: I can remember when the DCP had the Presidency and seats in the Cabinet despite having less than 3% of the vote ;). |
| Date | 22:48:26, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Centre Democrats | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank mrs. Rhydderch for congratulating me and my incoming cabinet. I would like to comment on what mr. Dafis just said. I have made an alliance with RFR, PP and S where I promised them that I would make them a part of the coming cabinet in return for support at the presidential elections. They supported me and I will of course honor my commitments. Lucas Manon (R) President Party Leader |
| Date | 22:50:24, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr Speaker, we agree with the Hon. Member Dafis to a certain extent: economically, this government will not always find common ground, however with regards to civil liberties, we share the same individualist and freedom-minded attitude as opposed to the policies the conservative government has championed throughout its tenure. Rolling these back will be the main objective of this government. Graham Breckinridge MP Member for Magadonia Finance Minister-designate |
| Date | 22:55:22, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | OOC: Caron Rhydderch is a man. Welsh names are confusing, I know ;). |
| Date | 22:57:14, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr Speaker, It's funny that we are going to have a government that cannot agree on anything when it comes to economics while we are in the middle of a deficit crisis. But hey, who cares about economics when you can cuddle with batty men, feminist witches and wetbacks? Freaggin lunatics.. The people didn't vote our coalition out because you liberal scum are oh so swell guys. They voted our collation out because our party leader gave them a president who is a stinking liberal FAG, and I intend to change that. Heiro Fahramar, MP WD Spokesman on Transport |
| Date | 22:57:15, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Centre Democrats | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | OOC: Sorry! - I actually looked it up and found a wiki page about Caron and in there, there were almost only female Caron names :) |
| Date | 22:59:23, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | OOC: There is always the possibility that Caron is meant to be a female name and I somehow mistook it as a male name lol! |
| Date | 22:59:25, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I advise Mr Fahramar to take care of his blood pressure. Permanent ranting cannot possibly be very healthy for a man whose mind and intellect (?) is already in a devastatingly pathetic state. Don't also risk your physical health. Dr. Herbert Spalding MP Member for Elbian RFR Health Spokesman |
| Date | 23:01:59, May 13, 2013 CET | From | ACT Dranland | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Well, we already have it: even before this government has been formed they've admitted it will be a divided and weak government, not a solid one and united government that the Dranish crave. Surely the wishes of the people should be put before secretive backroom deals? Huw Dafis MP, ACT Dranland leader |
| Date | 23:02:16, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I also dare to doubt that ex-President Solfjord is anything like a "fag" - in fact we can assume that he's run off to the most reactionary corner of Valdor with the 19.95 DRA-witch doctor where they now happily live away from all things gay. Troy Overton MP Member for Elbian RFR Parliamentary Leader |
| Date | 23:02:38, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I'm just pointing out the obvious fact that you liberal loons care nothing for the well-being of ordinary Dranish citizens. You are willing to sacrifice the entire economy, were you are all far from each other, so that you can have the freedom to cuddle with fags, smelly immigrants and feminist hags. Heiro Fahramar, MP WD Spokesman on Transport |
| Date | 23:05:10, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr Speaker, While I wouldn't use some of the colourful language of honourable Mr. Fahramar, I would concur with him in his analysis that Solfjord was quite the liberal of a president and that this has affected us in a negative way. We shall take the time to discuss this internally though, and not externally. Tyr Argus-Helm, MP |
| Date | 23:05:22, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr Speaker, it is the obstructionism of the WD that failed to eliminate the deficit in the first place. It was them who insisted on slaughtering whole departments instead of moderate across-the-board-cuts. In any way, this government will tackle the deficit responsibly and put vested interests aside in doing so. Graham Breckinridge MP Member for Magadonia Finance Minister-designate |
| Date | 23:47:42, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | OOC: Who's the VP, actually? |
| Date | 23:49:54, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Centre Democrats | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | OOC: I guess one from RFR since they are the largest party that supported Lucas Manon at the elections |
| Date | 23:50:45, May 13, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | OOC: Then Graham Breckinridge will be VP and Finance Minister. |
| Date | 23:57:26, May 13, 2013 CET | From | ACT Dranland | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, One is most confused as to why my vast knowledge of the legal system and utterly fabulous fashion-sense has failed to land me the position of Minister of Justice... Lady Nancy Boyce MP |
| Date | 00:58:03, May 14, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, perhaps the President does not share Lady Nancy Boyce's own estimation of herself? Hywel Wigley MP Minister of Defence |
| Date | 01:07:52, May 14, 2013 CET | From | Centre Democrats | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I see it only as an attempt to ridicule this cabinet proposal to ask such a thing. Fashion has nothing to with being a good Minister of Justice and I would not include a "funny" party in my cabinet. President Lucas Manon (R) Party Leader |
| Date | 01:11:22, May 14, 2013 CET | From | ACT Dranland | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, What Lady Nancy Boyce is saying is that our party is surprised and very disappointed that we have been overlooked. Our MPs have a lot to offer and we are full of fresh ideas. We made considerable breakthroughs and had a good election result yet we've been beaten into government by two extremely insignificant parties. We're rightfully unhappy. Huw Dafis MP, ACT Dranland leader |
| Date | 01:20:28, May 14, 2013 CET | From | Centre Democrats | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, No party in Parliament is "insignificant", every party represents a group of voters and will therefore always be of huge significance. We in Retsforbundet do however wish to co-operate with the parties in Parliament that we find it easier to co-operate with, that is one of the reasons why I have made this cabinet proposal. The other reason is that Retsforbundet has been in an alliance with 3 parties in this cabinet proposal. President Lucas Manon (R) Party Leader |
| Date | 01:25:16, May 14, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Conservative Party | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Huw Dafis and Lady Nancy Boyce have seen how miserly the liberal and libertarian parties can be. Perhaps they should consider switching sides and endorsing me at the next Presidential election? Rafael Duvalle MP Former President of Dranland Former Chairman of the Dranish Conservative Party |
| Date | 01:31:25, May 14, 2013 CET | From | Centre Democrats | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, It would be incredibly hypocritical if Huw Dafis and Lady Nancy Boyce would support the DCP that never has gained over 10% of the votes, while they would that the PP and S should be excluded from the government because they are "insignificant" parties due to their ranks as the second smallest and smallest parties. President Lucas Manon (R) Party Leader |
| Date | 11:16:33, May 14, 2013 CET | From | ACT Dranland | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, So again the Retsforbundet has proven that it has put backroom deals before what the people voted for. My party has more seats than them both combined, more people wanted us to be in government than those two parties who were simply rejected in the last election. While we agree with some of the policies of the Conservative Party their absurd position regarding dress and homosexuality means that we could not possibly associate with them. Huw Dafis MP, ACT Dranland leader |
| Date | 15:08:01, May 14, 2013 CET | From | Centre Democrats | To | Debating the Cabinet of Lucas Manon |
| Message | OOC: PP vote for the cabinet proposal! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 200 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 175 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 24 |
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